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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33884 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:44 am to
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How quick? How long does it last when an interim takes over a failing program?




Failing, that's interesting.

9* wins under Les Miles = failing.
9 wins under Orgeorn = we comin
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:46 am to
Eh. I don't think it's fair to judge a coach off of one game. Good or bad. We also don't know how much of that was Herman and how much was Meyer.

Now, the job Herman did with that QB at Houston was phenomenal.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19536 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:50 am to
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9* wins under Les Miles = failing.
9 wins under Orgeorn = we comin



Dude keep in mind these are either Pomansky paid people saying this stuff or O’s close friends and relatives. It is very annoying that they can’t say. “Yep it was bad but we hope he’ll figure it out”.

I’m cool with the “he has heart” narrative but acting like historic fails and poor recruiting decisions point to future success
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:51 am to
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Tell the truth Monday and every other themed weekday
"One team, one heartbeat"
That purple and gold chain on the locker room


Holy shite. Eaux is the only coach to ever take over two P5 teams as interim head coach and have success. AND you are saying it is because he names the days, has a slogan and puts team-colored chains in the locker room? Damn, if all the interim coaches who have failed only knew what it took to be a successful coach !!!!

And that's what got the USC and LSU programs to start winning? WOW !!! I hope every prospective coach and the not-so-successful coaches get to see your words of brilliance one day.

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If I had an exact answer for you, I would be the AD


Well you stated your FACT and I just assumed since you brought it up, you may have a little more insight into the FACT. You say it is over quickly but you have no idea what quickly means or how long it is and would be an AD if you did? Is that what I'm hearing?

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And if you're saying LSU was a failing program


Going 4-5 in your last nine games is a failing program on the wrong course.

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When he was the interim coach all questions were met with smiles and and laid back responses. Last year, that turned to "I'm the head coach, we're gonna do what I wanna do" when asked tough questions.


Here is an interview he did as the head coach recently. He looks like a miserable a-hole. I wonder what he said in this one? Maybe "I'm the head coach, we're gonna do what I wanna do"?

WATCH: Ed Orgeron delivers halftime interview of the year


Posted by Huell Babineaux
Member since Jan 2014
13 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:53 am to
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Based upon whose judgment, yours?


That and the judgment of every AD in theh game not named Joe Alleva
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:54 am to
So, I post about being asked tough questions and you come back with the fun loving interview with Allison Williams. That is the all time twist. C'mon Ree, you're better than that.
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Holy shite. Eaux is the only coach to ever take over two P5 teams as interim head coach and have success. AND you are saying it is because he names the days, has a slogan and puts team-colored chains in the locker room?

You said name some gimmicks and I did. That's just part of the tools of a motivational type coach. Again, twisting.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:02 pm to
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If the post I responded to was talking about Canada and Aranda not getting along, then I apologize. I was referring strictly to O and Canada.


I don't think the post was about Aranda & Canada so no need to apologize for that.

you said one thing was speculation and stated the other was indeed a FACT. I was pointing out that both could very well be speculation.

Your post:
"Pure speculation on my part, but the fact that Canada didn't run the kind of offense that O wanted to run is probably a big reason why they didn't get along."
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:12 pm to
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Based upon his record as a head coach. IMO


So your answer is "yes" that your comment is based upon your judgment?

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IMO, a coach that was THAT unsuccessful as a head coach needs to prove himself at a smaller school before he gets a bigger job


Fair enough but that didn't happen. Do you hate the coach because of it?
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All of P5 is probably an exaggeration.


Not at all. Use google and prove me wrong. There are very few interim coaches who have taken over one program and been successful. It's not like a HC is going to retire mid-season of a winning compaign. There is ONLY ONE interim who has taken over two P5 programs and been successful.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:13 pm to
O already admitted that he wants to run the USC style spread offense and that is no way the kind of offense Canada runs. Anyone with YouTube can see that.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85618 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:15 pm to
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Can’t wait to see the how much better we’re prepared and the correlating increases of play because of it.


Can't wait? Why the frick was this team not prepared to play last season? Are you saying it's because we now hired a few old fricks? Everyone else was already on staff and couldn't get this team prepared to beat fricking Troy.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:15 pm to
I meant me saying all of P5 was an exaggeration.

I don't hate O at all, just don't think he's qualified to be the coach at LSU.

Everything I say is based upon my judgement and opinion, I've said that several times. Whose judgement and opinion is it that you think he's a good coach?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:17 pm to
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Based on his resume. It’s not subjective it’s facts as in Syracuse wouldnt hire him. He did not have a P5 resume. That’s no personal judgment it’s just is.


A lot of people associated with the USC program would disagree with you. From reading the articles there was only one person who did not think he had the resume or was not qualified after seeing what his work produced.

He improved his resume at USC and continued to do it at LSU. At LSU he got to audition for the job he was applying for. I think a lot of people would consider that a lot better or useful than simply looking at someone's resume.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30417 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:18 pm to
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C'mon Ree, you're better than that.

Nah, he really is as bad as his posts and opinions would lead you to believe.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85618 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:19 pm to
Woah, having success is winning with other coaches players? Having success is beating fricking Louisville and losing to ND?

Then why the frick did we shell out millions to fire Les and hire this guy? LSU was already having success based on your coach O love.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Would you care to share with us the results of his offense vs the University of Alabama, with his third string QB at the helm?


Are you asking me to tell you about Urban Meyer's OC and what he did in a game?

Do you want me to tell you how Urban Meyer's offense has not skipped a beat since Hotlips has been gone. How Urban's offense has actually been better in some of the few seasons since Hotlips left.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19536 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:24 pm to
IKR it’s as if O wasn’t the coach last year. Can’t wait ? Whatever
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:26 pm to
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9 wins under Orgeorn = we comin


9 wins under Eaux in his first year while playing over 30 freshmen with 8 starting, adding Fehoko, Giles, Shelvin, an O-line coach that has given up the fewest sacks in a season at two P5 conferences, etc = we comin !!!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216049 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Tiger Ree


DUDE... You are WAY over the top here..... I want LSU to be great no matter the coach... But you are off the charts with some of your comments......
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216049 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:30 pm to
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Then why the frick did we shell out millions to fire Les and hire this guy?


I will never get this.... We are getting the same results....
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:39 pm to
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So, I post about being asked tough questions and you come back with the fun loving interview with Allison Williams. That is the all time twist. C'mon Ree, you're better than that.


I did a search and that was the first one that came up. I don't have time to watch interviews but I can guarantee they were not nearly as miserable an experience as your exaggeration would suggest.

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You said name some gimmicks and I did. That's just part of the tools of a motivational type coach. Again, twisting.


You must not know what twisting means. You said he was only successful because of gimmicks and motivation.

I point out how ridiculous it is to believe that naming days, having a slogan and team-colored chains in the locker room caused two unranked P5 football teams to change and have successful seasons, get ranked and go to bowl games.

And then you accuse me of twisting things. Ha Ha Ha

You are the one who stated as fact what you thought happened. I have not twisted a thing. You are the one that is twisting. Squirming may be more appropriate word to use now.
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