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re: About the Chavis buyout...

Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:42 am to
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:42 am to
My understanding is that he broke his contract by not notifying miles/LSU of contact with AM regarding the position. His contract required miles/lsu to receive notification and/or give permission.

That did not occur, therefore he was in breach of contract. Whether they pursue it or not, i have no clue.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:42 am to
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LSU will sue Chavis to get that money.

if LSU sues they will lose in summary judgement. It's a joke of a threat from Alleva tbh
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19552 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:42 am to
quote:

So A&M had contact with Chavis prior to the conclusion of his contract?



Of course they did. Which happens all the fricking time. Not a damn thing wrong with it.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23050 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:43 am to
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LSU will have to sue Chavis to get this money. That's not happening. Alleva just ran his mouth because he's getting a TON of criticism and he's trying to look tough.


Our legal dept. Got the paper work already started
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27786 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:43 am to
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My understanding is that he broke his contract by not notifying miles/LSU of contact with AM regarding the position. His contract required miles/lsu to receive notification and/or give permission.


What I was getting to...

That's why LSU contacted Clancy Pendergrast first. He's unemployed.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:43 am to
quote:

So A&M had contact with Chavis prior to the conclusion of his contract?

buyouts do not prohibit employees from talking to potential employers or vice versa. He did not go to work for A&M prior to Jan 1. It's pretty open and shut and nothing else matters in this matter
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27786 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:44 am to
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Of course they did. Which happens all the fricking time. Not a damn thing wrong with it.


Lol

Except there is.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19552 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:45 am to
quote:

My understanding is that he broke his contract by not notifying miles/LSU of contact with AM regarding the position. His contract required miles/lsu to receive notification and/or give permission. That did not occur, therefore he was in breach of contract. Whether they pursue it or not, i have no clue.


Ahhh...that I had not heard. It sure doesn't seem like he kept anything a secret.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23050 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:45 am to
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buyouts do not prohibit employees from talking to potential employers or vice versa. He did not go to work for A&M prior to Jan 1. It's pretty open and shut and nothing else matters in this matter


Absolute bullshite, you have no fricking clue what wording was used in his contract
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64614 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:46 am to
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It's absurd to act like he owes that money. It's unethical. It's complete and total bull shite. And it will make other coaches think twice about dealing with LSU.


It's very unethical to stab in the back the man that saved your career in 2009. The first words out of your mouth when the plane lands is, "I can't wait to work with a good offense."

Where the frick was he in 2013 when LSU marched up and down the field at UGA only to watch his defense surrender 48 points?

There are assistant coaches on LSU's staff who signed their contract because he told them all he wasn't leaving LSU. The crybaby whines about not being paid more than 6 months if the head coach was gone. Just who the frick does he think he is?

He made a living off of obscene talent, which he didn't recruit by the way because he's "too good" for that. The last two years that talent was gone and Chief got exposed.

Good luck!
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:47 am to


Buyouts and retention bonuses are a means to entice employees not to leave. They are not contractual indentured servitude
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27786 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:50 am to
Why are you putting up such a fight?

You got the coach you wanted. You're not putting up any of your money to make the legal issue go away.

Be happy.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64614 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:50 am to
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Buyouts and retention bonuses are a means to entice employees not to leave. They are not contractual indentured servitude


What makes you think you know more than LSU's legal staff? LSU's lawyers told Alleva to go ahead and fight for the $400,000.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1669 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:51 am to
I highly doubt LSU would go after Chavis to pay unless they thought he did indeed break the contract. And if he did then there is nothing wrong with that. There is a reason buyouts are included in contracts.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44888 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:51 am to
This will be handled in Louisiana. good luck
Chief
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 am to
fight? I don't really care. Sue away! I just find it amusing that your AD has gone off the deep end and y'all are white knighting him even after this massive frick up
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
2476 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 am to
It's because Aggie fans so badly want to prove to LSU that they totally stole away our DC from under our nose. If he was irreplaceable LSU would have tried a wee bit harder to retain him. He's not a bad DC by any stretch but his few flaws are fatal and LSU will hire a more than capable replacement.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23050 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 am to
He is grasping at straws
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3058 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:53 am to
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Absolute bullshite, you have no fricking clue what wording was used in his contract


Coaching contract buyouts are usually liquidated damages provisions for terminating a deal early. I'm sure Chavis's agent informed LSU that he would be terminating the deal after 1-1-15. That's when the buyout is $0.

If LSU is alleging that he breached his deal, they will have to prove breach in court. The first hurdle to that is to get a judge or arbiter to ignore a specific liquidated damages provision that is bargained for and written into the deals. Then step 2 would be to prove actual damages... good luck with that. They may get away with the difference in Chavis's potential salary and the new DC's salary IF that DC got paid more than Chavis was set to make. Then maybe they could get the actual cost of recruiting a DC.

All of that is a lot of work... its billable to attorneys. It has a low likelihood of success. Again, the AD is posturing to make himself look better because he ran off his best assistant coach by trying to hardball him in negotiations and he got called on his bluff.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:54 am to
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LSU would have tried a wee bit harder to retain him


before he even officially accepted the job your AD publicly threatened to sue him
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