About O’s buyout?

Here is the relevant language, from Paragraph 11(A)(iii) of his contract:

Engaging in misconduct which either: (a) displays a continual, serious disrespect or continual, serious disregard for the mission of LSU; (b) brings Coach into substantial public disrepute sufficient to impair coach’s ability to perform the obligations contained herein without adverse impact to the Team or Program; or (c) constitutes moral turpitude or breaches the high moral and ethical standards applicable to Coach as a visible representative of LSU.

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Not a lawyer, but is that grounds for immediate termination ?

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Even if you fire him for cause, he can still cause a mess and file lawsuits and drag it out. Best case, we fire him for cause and negotiate a lower buyout.

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Best case, we fire him without cause and negotiate a lower buyout.

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FIFY

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If the Buyout is in fact $21 million, it should be a non-factor in any decision that is made to remove Orgeron.

LSU will lose double that in revenue if this shite show continues. It would be best to hedge their bet and make the move as quickly as possible.

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Not even close. The vast majority of our athletics revenue is from guaranteed media contracts negotiated at the conference level. As long as we remain in the SEC, sports revenue is a non-issue. This is how Vandy and Mississippi State and South Carolina survive.

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What about attendance, apparel sales, bowl revenue, etc?

Contracts are one thing, but the lingering effects of shitty coaching will absolutely cost a shite ton of money.

Not to mention the fact that boosters will absolutely not be investing any money with the program at this point...

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All secondary to media dollars.

Apparel sales are a blip on the financial radar. Attendance wise, people will still buy season tix and pay the mandatory minimum donation. In-stadium gameday sales of F&B barely break even.

Bowl money is shared with the conference and divvied up by even split. We actually make more money by not making a bowl, once you count the expenses and coaching bonuses.

Big money boosters will still give big money for access to the program, because it helps their other businesses. Big money boosters don't donate for on-field production. They donate to hobnob with the other big money people in the president's box.

LSU will not lose $42 million in revenue if Ed is not fired. That is what you claimed. It makes no sense.

Firing "for cause" means that he's being fired for reasons other than being a shitty coach.

Look at it from the perspective of an impartial outside observer and not an LSU fan. LSU didn't fire Orgeron when all of this shite went down and when he wasn't too far removed from a Nat'l. Championship. But now that LSU's football performance is an absolute disaster, they're going to fire Orgeron for something other than sucking at coaching football?

This is not remotely believable.

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Best case, we fire him for cause and negotiate a lower buyout.

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LSU will very soon be in the extremely competitive market for the small number of people who can command multi-million dollar salaries and massive buyouts.

Does LSU want to go into that market with its targets knowing that LSU just tried to frick its last coach out of his buyout?

Sorry bro. I didn't mean to imply that anything you said was wrong. I was trying to explain put the contract language you cited into context.

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I assure you that the lost dollars for LSU football will greatly exceed $42 million.

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I assure you it will not.

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Engaging in misconduct which either: (a) displays a continual, serious disrespect or continual, serious disregard for the mission of LSU; (b) brings Coach into substantial public disrepute sufficient to impair coach’s ability to perform the obligations contained herein without adverse impact to the Team or Program; or (c) constitutes moral turpitude or breaches the high moral and ethical standards applicable to Coach as a visible representative of LSU.

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This is the expectation clause. Now you need to go to the Termination for Cause section. Most is standard compliance language. The term for cause for behavioral issues however requires a specific process which may or may not have been put in process. The process has to be documented, timely, and progressive. The employer cannot stack up grievances and hit him all at once for a termination. They can go straight to termination if the offense is egregious enough. However if O has done something worthy of firing for cause and they dont execute it at the time then they are kinda proving the defendents cade that the issue was not serious...

They can fire him straight up for nothing but they will owe him the buyout in total.