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re: A team that doesn't win their conference, doesn't deserve to play

Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:18 am to
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:18 am to
You are arguing both sides of the coin.

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you also include a bunch of non-worthy teams whose ONLY function would be to disrupt the system


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that 65th team has a similar resume to the 66th, and therefore the "next team" is possibly getting screwed


Which is it? Are they unworthy or entitled? You have to draw the line somewhere. Is it any coincidence that no number 1 seed has EVER lost to a 16 seed?
Posted by thadwin
Shreveport, LA
Member since Dec 2009
227 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:30 am to
This is a tough one. I remember Georgia complaining about this issue in LSU's last national championship season. I was aggravated by their position that they did not have to win the SEC to play in the National Championship that year. However, this is a little different situation. Remember, in that year Georgia lost to Tennessee and then LSU beat Tennessee in the SEC championship game. If LSU wins out and Auburn loses to Alabama then loses to Florida in the SEC championship game then I can see how LSU could get the nod since LSU played Auburn close and LSU beat Florida. I still don't like the fact that a team can play in the National Championship game and not win their conference but given that all conferences do not have championship games it remains a possibility. It probably won't matter since TCU would probably be #2 in this situation anyway, but you never know. Sorry for being so long winded but it is a complicated issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466236 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:35 am to
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Which is it? Are they unworthy or entitled?

they're not inconsistent ideas

all who are given slots in the playoff are entitled

some are worthy, some are not worthy

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You have to draw the line somewhere.

and THAT is the problem

the systems people propose fail to avoid the stated problems they see with the BCS, also

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Is it any coincidence that no number 1 seed has EVER lost to a 16 seed?

2s have lost to 15s
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26289 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:41 am to
IMO the more teams you include the better your chance of not excluding a team with the potential to win it all. You can't include everyone in a playoff though. There must be a standard or a benchmark for determining which teams are "worthy." I think a CCG could be that benchmark.

Regardless of the format, of this I am sure. There will always be someone who doesn't like whichever format is in place.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60766 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:59 am to
That to me is the problem with expansive playoffs, lots of teams could win, but the regular season should matter. By limiting the # of teams, you will have a better champion. Teams like the 2007 Giants should be in the playoffs.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60766 posts
Posted on 11/7/10 at 12:00 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 11/7/10 at 12:02 pm
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