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A question for the BCS savvy people out there
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:56 pm
Ok. What I want to know is if LSU and Bama go to the BCSNCG, who goes to the Sugar Bowl from the SEC, if anyone?
I want to know how the system works. Bama would be a one-loss team in this scenario, LSU undefeated. LSU would be #1 in BCS, Bama #2. Lsu would have beaten UGA in the SECCG to give them two losses. Arky also would have two losses. Would the Sugar take Arky or UGA? I know the Sugar would take the SEC #2 if the SEC champ is in the NCG, but in the rematch scenario would Bama be SEC#2 and if so, how is it determined who number three is?
I want to know how the system works. Bama would be a one-loss team in this scenario, LSU undefeated. LSU would be #1 in BCS, Bama #2. Lsu would have beaten UGA in the SECCG to give them two losses. Arky also would have two losses. Would the Sugar take Arky or UGA? I know the Sugar would take the SEC #2 if the SEC champ is in the NCG, but in the rematch scenario would Bama be SEC#2 and if so, how is it determined who number three is?
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 pm to 500
No more SEC team can go to a BCS bowl if that happens. TWo max.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 pm to 500
I guess what I'm saying is that I see in this scenario where the Sugar could pick non-Sec team v At Large. Could this happen?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 pm to 500
quote:no SEC school
What I want to know is if LSU and Bama go to the BCSNCG, who goes to the Sugar Bowl from the SEC, if anyone?
only 2 schools from one BCS conference are allowed in BCS bowls
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:58 pm to 500
k. So who is third in SEC, UGA or ARKY?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:58 pm to 500
Yes. I'm pretty sure the only possible way the SEC can have three teams in BCS games is if the teams are all ranked in the top 4
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:00 pm to OneMoreTime
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I'm pretty sure the only possible way the SEC can have three teams in BCS games is if we the teams are all ranked in the top 4
Does this trump the ONLY TWO TEAMS FROM THE SAME CONFERENCE rule?
Sorry, didn't mean to yell...
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:01 pm to 500
Does not matter who is 3rd.
BCS limits to 2 per Conf.
Other SEC bowl tie ins can take whatever team they want.
Sugar gets first at large pick of a non-bowl linked Conf team
BCS limits to 2 per Conf.
Other SEC bowl tie ins can take whatever team they want.
Sugar gets first at large pick of a non-bowl linked Conf team
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:02 pm to 500
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No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.
So if UGA wins the SEC, but LSU and Bama stay #1/#2, then you could have 3. So essentially impossible.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:06 pm to TriumphTiger
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Does not matter who is 3rd.
BCS limits to 2 per Conf.
quote:
No more SEC team can go to a BCS bowl if that happens. TWo max.
quote:this is not entirely accurate. there is a way for a conference to have 3 teams in the BCS bowl games. its if 2 teams- from the same conference- are 1 and 2 in the BCS formula and another team wins an automatic berth. #1 LSU losing to someone in the SECCG is a scenario this could happen if LSU and bama still end up #1 and #2.
no SEC school
only 2 schools from one BCS conference are allowed in BCS bowls
unlikely, but possible
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:06 pm to 500
Per Brad Edwards, there can be three if the top two bcs teams are not the conference champion. Then the champ would go to the sugar bowl and the top 2 would go to the ship.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:07 pm to TriumphTiger
I have never understood why they put that rule in there. We would have to lose the SEC CG and then play bama in the NCG for this rule to take effect then the SEC champ would be in the sugar.
That would never happen
That would never happen
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:10 pm to txtiger21
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I have never understood why they put that rule in there. We would have to lose the SEC CG and then play bama in the NCG for this rule to take effect then the SEC champ would be in the sugar. That would never happen
Imagine that Arky beats LSU and Bama goes to the SECCG as the highest BCS team, but Arky ends up #2 and LSU falls to #3. Then, Bams loses to UGA.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:22 pm to 500
I think if both the teams are in the NCG then I think another team can go to a BCS.
That may be wrong though.
That may be wrong though.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:38 am to sec417r39
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I think if both the teams are in the NCG then I think another team can go to a BCS. That may be wrong though.
Already answered above. The ONLY exception to the 2 team maximum is if 2 teams from your conference are #1/#2, but NEITHER are the actual conference champion. This is almost impossible, but is there just in case it would somehow happen.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 6:29 am to txtiger21
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I have never understood why they put that rule in there. We would have to lose the SEC CG and then play bama in the NCG for this rule to take effect then the SEC champ would be in the sugar.
They want to insure that the conf champ goes to a BCS bowl. Like 2007 when we went with 2 losses, it is extremely unlikely, but it is possible.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 6:30 am to 500
As I understand it, the Sugar Bowl is not required to even take an SEC team at all when replacing the SEC champion when the SEC champion is in the title game. They have done so each time that the SEC champion has been in the title game, but the rules don't require it. The Sugar could select a nonSEC as the replacement team if they wanted to.It isn't automatic that an SEC team replaces the SEC champion when the SEC champion is in the title game. The Sugar has nevertheless chosen an SEC replacement team because the SEC team chosen is the best team available, ticket sales, etc., and tradition.
In the unlikely, but possible event that both LSU and Bama ended up as 1 & 2, even if the Sugar could select a 3rd SEC team (and it is unlikely that a 3rd SEC team would qualify under the rules), they very well may not choose an SEC team if there is a higher ranked team that would generate more ticket sales and national interest from another conference.
In the unlikely, but possible event that both LSU and Bama ended up as 1 & 2, even if the Sugar could select a 3rd SEC team (and it is unlikely that a 3rd SEC team would qualify under the rules), they very well may not choose an SEC team if there is a higher ranked team that would generate more ticket sales and national interest from another conference.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 7:20 am to HideChaKidz
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A question for the BCS savvy people out there
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No more SEC team can go to a BCS bowl if that happens. TWo max
Not true,,,, the only time an exeption will be made to that rule is if the two teams in the NC are from the same conference.. I heard the BCS guy say that the Sunday night on ESPN...
That being said, I dont think the human voters would allow that to happen.....
Posted on 11/8/11 at 7:31 am to lake chuck fan
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Not true,,,, the only time an exeption will be made to that rule is if the two teams in the NC are from the same conference.. I heard the BCS guy say that the Sunday night on ESPN...
Read this thread and the BCS link. The two teams from the NCG would have to be from the same conference and NEITHER the conference champion. VERY unlikely.
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