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re: 3 yrs later, we all agree it wasn't pass interference...

Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to
Back to 2006. If Hester was in the NBA, he would have been called for traveling.
Posted by mtntiger
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to
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NC_Tigah...is still unclear regarding the rules of football.


Hold on there, xiv. The rule is that once a ball it tipped, then it's OK for defenders to use their hands on the receiver.

The offense in question happened BEFORE the ball was tipped, therefore it was STILL pass interference, and I don't give a smelly rat's arse what the head of officials in the SEC said after the game to Les or anyone else - - that was a blown call!!!!

Am I saying it cost LSU the game? No, I am not. I am saying that it certainly did not help LSU's cause that Auburn was allowed on at least two seperate occasions to make contact illegally with LSU receivers downfield and have the refs either not throw a flag OOOORRRRRRRR wave off a penalty that had already been called and marked off.

Sorry, but that game smelled like a seafood factory at low tide to me then and the stench is still in my nostrils today.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:43 pm to
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The offense in question happened BEFORE the ball was tipped, therefore it was STILL pass interference,
Contact or not, there was no opportunity fot Doucet to catch the ball. There can be no pass interference if there is no such opportunity.
Posted by mtntiger
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:47 pm to
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Contact or not, there was no opportunity fot Doucet to catch the ball. There can be no pass interference if there is no such opportunity.


I can see we're getting nowhere here.

By your logic, any DB should be able to hang all over a receiver so long as he, or someone else on his team, is able to bat the ball away.

BTW, even if the safety didn't come over to bat the ball away, there was no opportunity for Doucet to catch the ball, BECAUSE HIS FREAKIN' ARMS WERE BEING HELD TO HIS SIDES!!!! What part of that do you not understand?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:47 pm to
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The rule is that once a ball it tipped, then it's OK for defenders to use their hands on the receiver.
Hence, the GIF . . .

Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:49 pm to
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3 yrs later, we all agree it wasn't pass interference...


it was PI, it did not cost us the game.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:49 pm to
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What part of that do you not understand?
There was another Auburn defender in the path of the ball. It was his, and not Doucet's, to catch. Defensive holding would have been an acceptable call, but there was no pass interference. NC_Tigah can post that picture all he wants, but he has no picture of a pass interference.
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 5:53 pm
Posted by noonan
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:52 pm to
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but there was no pass interference


was the ball in the air?

was the receiver being held while it was in the air?

seems pretty clear cut to me.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to
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There was another Auburn receiver in the path of the ball.
Defender. And "in the path of the ball" is irrelevant.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to
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was the ball in the air?
Yes.
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was the receiver being held while it was in the air?
Yes.
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seems pretty clear cut to me.
That isn't pass interference.

Given that the receiver was held more than 5 yards downfield (and he was), you can call defensive holding.

But being that an Auburn defender stood between the ball and Doucet, that's not Doucet's pass. Therefore, the defender holding Doucet did not commit pass interference. Rather, he committed illegal contact downfield. That was a bad no-call. Five yards, first down.

But it wasn't pass interference. I say this because I know the rules.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to
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There was another Auburn defender in the path of the ball. It was his, and not Doucet's, to catch. Defensive holding would have been an acceptable call, but there was no pass interference. NC_Tigah can post that picture all he wants, but he has no picture of a pass interference.


Any chance you were in the striped shirt that day with the white hat on?

If so, then I suggest you retire. If not, thank God.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to
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NC_Tigah
Still misunderstands the rules. And I think he does it on purpose.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:55 pm to
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Any chance you were in the striped shirt that day with the white hat on?

If so, then I suggest you retire. If not, thank God.
I would like to think that I would have called defensive holding. Five yards, first down LSU.

Am I a bad official?
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:56 pm to
The phantom call on Dyakoswski sporting a cast..and the non-call on mugging an LSU WR in the endzone by Powers right before halftime, then having to settle for the FG..the non-calls of Aub hitting LSU Tigers out of bounds on the LSU sideline on more than one play, especially when LSU was flagged for such on the Aub sidelines..etc..

Made for an officiating farce..yet three BCS Champs in a row later..the nation's premier league is constantly humiliating itself as an inbred to the discerning eyes via officiating fiascos these past weeks..

Time for the SEC to spend some of the tv millions on full-time pro refs..time to quit the insurance agent/part-timer cr@p..time for the SEC to quit guarding that year's BCS Title Horse/Golden Goose with bogus calls year after year..and that means UK and UF Hoops..and LSU Bases too..at times.
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 6:01 pm
Posted by G4LSU
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:57 pm to
you guys are being trolled.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:58 pm to
Hmmm.... Sounds like a bunch more

Never stops with you guys.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:05 pm to
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Still misunderstands the rules.
cite the" opposing 'receiver' in the path of the ball" rule you think you understand . . . Quote it here verbatim. We'll wait.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:07 pm to
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Am I a bad official?
You're a comedian.




heh . . . see what I did there.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29308 posts
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:12 pm to
xiv, you still haven't addressed the issue I raised earlier - - that being of a defender being able to do whatever he wants so long as he, or one of his teammates, is able to at least touch the ball prior to it arriving where the receiver is.

For instance, Patrick Peterson should be able to shove Julio Jones out of the way as long as Karnell Hatcher shows up to swat the ball into $$$$$'s ugly mug on the Bama sideline. That is essentially what you are saying.

Sorry, dude, but that's pass interference, regardless of whether another defender was in the way. There's a reason it's called pass interference - - the receiver's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with.

In the case of the Auburn game in 2006, Early Doucet's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with. He had no chance to challenge the safety for the ball because he was being held, and the added weight and momentum of the defender hanging all over him (moving him farther downfield) prevented him from being in position to fight for the ball.

That is pass interference.

Now, if you still won't agree to that, then I suggest you send your resume along with a copy of this entire post to the Director of SEC Officials, or the SWAC. They never seem to get their fill of horrible officials.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:13 pm to
What does two unbeaten seasons all for lint balls instead of national hardware over the past two decades..or beating #1 UF and #3 LSU in a year where you began #1, yet fell off to oblivion..feel like? Got crystal?

Or your biggest benefactor's bank failing and your coach-search jet being confiscated?

Chuck..Charles..Tim Hudson..Bo..etc..never natty hardware..at The Barn thats only won by Rowdy Gaines and the weanie-bikini crew.
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