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re: 3 yrs later, we all agree it wasn't pass interference...
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to Choupique19
Back to 2006. If Hester was in the NBA, he would have been called for traveling.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:41 pm to xiv
quote:
NC_Tigah...is still unclear regarding the rules of football.
Hold on there, xiv. The rule is that once a ball it tipped, then it's OK for defenders to use their hands on the receiver.
The offense in question happened BEFORE the ball was tipped, therefore it was STILL pass interference, and I don't give a smelly rat's arse what the head of officials in the SEC said after the game to Les or anyone else - - that was a blown call!!!!
Am I saying it cost LSU the game? No, I am not. I am saying that it certainly did not help LSU's cause that Auburn was allowed on at least two seperate occasions to make contact illegally with LSU receivers downfield and have the refs either not throw a flag OOOORRRRRRRR wave off a penalty that had already been called and marked off.
Sorry, but that game smelled like a seafood factory at low tide to me then and the stench is still in my nostrils today.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:43 pm to mtntiger
quote:Contact or not, there was no opportunity fot Doucet to catch the ball. There can be no pass interference if there is no such opportunity.
The offense in question happened BEFORE the ball was tipped, therefore it was STILL pass interference,
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:47 pm to xiv
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Contact or not, there was no opportunity fot Doucet to catch the ball. There can be no pass interference if there is no such opportunity.
I can see we're getting nowhere here.
By your logic, any DB should be able to hang all over a receiver so long as he, or someone else on his team, is able to bat the ball away.
BTW, even if the safety didn't come over to bat the ball away, there was no opportunity for Doucet to catch the ball, BECAUSE HIS FREAKIN' ARMS WERE BEING HELD TO HIS SIDES!!!! What part of that do you not understand?
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:47 pm to mtntiger
quote:Hence, the GIF . . .
The rule is that once a ball it tipped, then it's OK for defenders to use their hands on the receiver.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:49 pm to xiv
quote:
3 yrs later, we all agree it wasn't pass interference...
it was PI, it did not cost us the game.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:49 pm to mtntiger
quote:There was another Auburn defender in the path of the ball. It was his, and not Doucet's, to catch. Defensive holding would have been an acceptable call, but there was no pass interference. NC_Tigah can post that picture all he wants, but he has no picture of a pass interference.
What part of that do you not understand?
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:52 pm to xiv
quote:
but there was no pass interference
was the ball in the air?
was the receiver being held while it was in the air?
seems pretty clear cut to me.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to xiv
quote:Defender. And "in the path of the ball" is irrelevant.
There was another Auburn receiver in the path of the ball.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to noonan
quote:Yes.
was the ball in the air?
quote:Yes.
was the receiver being held while it was in the air?
quote:That isn't pass interference.
seems pretty clear cut to me.
Given that the receiver was held more than 5 yards downfield (and he was), you can call defensive holding.
But being that an Auburn defender stood between the ball and Doucet, that's not Doucet's pass. Therefore, the defender holding Doucet did not commit pass interference. Rather, he committed illegal contact downfield. That was a bad no-call. Five yards, first down.
But it wasn't pass interference. I say this because I know the rules.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to xiv
quote:
There was another Auburn defender in the path of the ball. It was his, and not Doucet's, to catch. Defensive holding would have been an acceptable call, but there was no pass interference. NC_Tigah can post that picture all he wants, but he has no picture of a pass interference.
Any chance you were in the striped shirt that day with the white hat on?
If so, then I suggest you retire. If not, thank God.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Still misunderstands the rules. And I think he does it on purpose.
NC_Tigah
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:55 pm to mtntiger
quote:I would like to think that I would have called defensive holding. Five yards, first down LSU.
Any chance you were in the striped shirt that day with the white hat on?
If so, then I suggest you retire. If not, thank God.
Am I a bad official?
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:56 pm to xiv
The phantom call on Dyakoswski sporting a cast..and the non-call on mugging an LSU WR in the endzone by Powers right before halftime, then having to settle for the FG..the non-calls of Aub hitting LSU Tigers out of bounds on the LSU sideline on more than one play, especially when LSU was flagged for such on the Aub sidelines..etc..
Made for an officiating farce..yet three BCS Champs in a row later..the nation's premier league is constantly humiliating itself as an inbred to the discerning eyes via officiating fiascos these past weeks..
Time for the SEC to spend some of the tv millions on full-time pro refs..time to quit the insurance agent/part-timer cr@p..time for the SEC to quit guarding that year's BCS Title Horse/Golden Goose with bogus calls year after year..and that means UK and UF Hoops..and LSU Bases too..at times.
Made for an officiating farce..yet three BCS Champs in a row later..the nation's premier league is constantly humiliating itself as an inbred to the discerning eyes via officiating fiascos these past weeks..
Time for the SEC to spend some of the tv millions on full-time pro refs..time to quit the insurance agent/part-timer cr@p..time for the SEC to quit guarding that year's BCS Title Horse/Golden Goose with bogus calls year after year..and that means UK and UF Hoops..and LSU Bases too..at times.
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
you guys are being trolled.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:58 pm to Choupique19
Hmmm.... Sounds like a bunch more
Never stops with you guys.
Never stops with you guys.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:05 pm to xiv
quote:cite the" opposing 'receiver' in the path of the ball" rule you think you understand . . . Quote it here verbatim. We'll wait.
Still misunderstands the rules.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:07 pm to xiv
quote:You're a comedian.
Am I a bad official?
heh . . . see what I did there.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:12 pm to xiv
xiv, you still haven't addressed the issue I raised earlier - - that being of a defender being able to do whatever he wants so long as he, or one of his teammates, is able to at least touch the ball prior to it arriving where the receiver is.
For instance, Patrick Peterson should be able to shove Julio Jones out of the way as long as Karnell Hatcher shows up to swat the ball into $$$$$'s ugly mug on the Bama sideline. That is essentially what you are saying.
Sorry, dude, but that's pass interference, regardless of whether another defender was in the way. There's a reason it's called pass interference - - the receiver's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with.
In the case of the Auburn game in 2006, Early Doucet's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with. He had no chance to challenge the safety for the ball because he was being held, and the added weight and momentum of the defender hanging all over him (moving him farther downfield) prevented him from being in position to fight for the ball.
That is pass interference.
Now, if you still won't agree to that, then I suggest you send your resume along with a copy of this entire post to the Director of SEC Officials, or the SWAC. They never seem to get their fill of horrible officials.
For instance, Patrick Peterson should be able to shove Julio Jones out of the way as long as Karnell Hatcher shows up to swat the ball into $$$$$'s ugly mug on the Bama sideline. That is essentially what you are saying.
Sorry, dude, but that's pass interference, regardless of whether another defender was in the way. There's a reason it's called pass interference - - the receiver's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with.
In the case of the Auburn game in 2006, Early Doucet's opportunity to catch the ball was interfered with. He had no chance to challenge the safety for the ball because he was being held, and the added weight and momentum of the defender hanging all over him (moving him farther downfield) prevented him from being in position to fight for the ball.
That is pass interference.
Now, if you still won't agree to that, then I suggest you send your resume along with a copy of this entire post to the Director of SEC Officials, or the SWAC. They never seem to get their fill of horrible officials.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:13 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
What does two unbeaten seasons all for lint balls instead of national hardware over the past two decades..or beating #1 UF and #3 LSU in a year where you began #1, yet fell off to oblivion..feel like? Got crystal?
Or your biggest benefactor's bank failing and your coach-search jet being confiscated?
Chuck..Charles..Tim Hudson..Bo..etc..never natty hardware..at The Barn thats only won by Rowdy Gaines and the weanie-bikini crew.
Or your biggest benefactor's bank failing and your coach-search jet being confiscated?
Chuck..Charles..Tim Hudson..Bo..etc..never natty hardware..at The Barn thats only won by Rowdy Gaines and the weanie-bikini crew.
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