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re: 3 Consecutive LSU football coaches to win the Nat'l Championship
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:09 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:09 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Orgeron didn't have really much other HC offers
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:13 pm to ThePTExperience1969
So is it this...
or is it this..
If we have all these financial resources then why the excitement for a unqualified coach because it allows up to pay to retain/hire Aranda and Canada?? You can't have it both ways.
If we have all these financial resources we should have been able to go get a coach worthy of the level of LSU ("one of the preeminent programs in the entire nation") and still have Aranda and Canada.
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Eaux is the head coach at one of the preeminent programs in the entire nation with tons of financial resources.
or is it this..
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we got him cheap which enabled us to retain Aranda and acquire Canada
If we have all these financial resources then why the excitement for a unqualified coach because it allows up to pay to retain/hire Aranda and Canada?? You can't have it both ways.
If we have all these financial resources we should have been able to go get a coach worthy of the level of LSU ("one of the preeminent programs in the entire nation") and still have Aranda and Canada.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:14 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Orgeron didn't have really much other HC offers for leverage
Hmmm...i wonder why that is
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:15 pm to THECEO
I hope so 
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:20 pm to The Godfather
Eaux wants to be there compared to the candidates in consideration(see Tom Herman smoke screen) and it enabled us to retain/hire 2 top 3 coordinators at their profession, it's that simple but you morons keep attempting to obfuscate things when it's staring at you right in the face.
Based on your inscribed quote concerning Alleva, I can easily infer you're a Negatiger.
Based on your inscribed quote concerning Alleva, I can easily infer you're a Negatiger.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:32 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Eaux wants to be there compared to the candidates in consideration
Eaux did not want the status queaux. He was good to geaux and wouldn't say neaux. Negatigers bleaux. It's true, you kneaux.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:35 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Could be millions more
Millions??
You realize he's making just 1 million less than our previous coach right? The one that won a national championship, played for another, and won multiple SEC titles while earning the highest winning percentage in school history for over a decade??
But we could be paying O MILLIONS more??
Also, you keep talking about evidence, yet I'm giving an opinion. I don't think you know how this works
My opinion is based on O's previous HC experience and the lack of a market for his services, EVIDENCED by the fact that he couldn't even get an interview for the HC position at Syracuse less than a year before he was hired for the same position at LSU by Alleva.
You mention Miles, but Miles hasn't been the highest paid HC in 10 years, and didn't get that salary bump until after he won a national championship, not when he signed his original contract.
As for the other SEC HCs, again, you are making my point. We only paid O what we did to keep up with the Jones' so to speak.
He is bottom 4 in the SEC? Ok, which coaches above him would his resume justify making more?
Further, which coaches below him had a better resume than O when they signed their contracts? If there are coaches with better resumes making less than him, why?
I also just love that I am now being referred to as a Negatiger. This is some bizarro world shite
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:48 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Duh we're gonna pay Eaux SEC money, he's a head coach in the fricking SEC! Why is that a bad thing? Not only that, he coaches a perennially top 4-6 SEC team but is earning the 10th most in a 14 team conference which is very reasonable considering his lack of proven success and longevity as full-time HC. LSU will very likely be ranked top 15 but his contract is likely ranked in the outer edge of the top 40 in head coaches and behind Mark Stoops', who IIRC was never a HC prior to UK and hasn't gained much success there. Y'all need to chill out and accept this blessing we have.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:53 pm to ThePTExperience1969
So, again, you are in total agreement with my opinion that O is only being paid what he is based on the "that's just what SEC coaches make" train of thought 
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Y'all need to chill out and accept this blessing we have
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:58 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? We're only entrusting a human being with the maintenance of a top 15 college football program and so far our investment has generated great returns and defeated Lamar Jackson in the bowl game. Let's just pay him shite money to ensure he does a shitty job like we did with Johnny Jones WHOO!!! O's contract is justified.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:58 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Eaux wants to be there compared to the candidates in consideration(see Tom Herman smoke screen)
This has already been said by others, but I will try saying it again in a different way. It is not a good thing that LSU settled for someone that they could pay really low. It means that they got a coach that is universally thought to be low quality and has proven it with his performance in the past.
Of course Orgeron wants to be here. Nowhere else would have him.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:01 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Paying him more means he will be better at his job?
Nice talking with you PT. I hope you enjoyed Coach O day down in Larose, baw.
Nice talking with you PT. I hope you enjoyed Coach O day down in Larose, baw.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:02 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Yes, it is a bad thing that we are paying him based off of other SEC coach's salaries rather than his own worth. Recognize that this is what you are saying.
BTW, I am still hopeful that this whole thing will work out. It could. But there are a whole lot of reasons to be pessimistic, and you are delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:02 pm to Peazey
But has he proven it with LSU yet? As indicated with our performance against the Heisman Trophy winner in the bowl game, our subsequent recruiting performance, and the acquisition of Matt Canada as OC, he hasn't proven as low quality with his current performance. So far, y'all's notions are being disproven one by one.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:04 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Paying him more means he will be better at his job?
He sure has proven it so far, y'all are the ones being discredited which I believe y'all actually enjoy because that entails success for LSU.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:06 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Why do people keep saying Canada is a top 3 OC?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:06 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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our performance against the Heisman Trophy winner in the bowl game, our subsequent recruiting performance, and the acquisition of Matt Canada as OC,
All of that happened after Alleva paid him his huge contract.
None of that justifies Alleva giving 3.5 million to a guy with O's resume.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:13 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Not huge compared to the fact that Mark Stoops makes more than O and he was NEVER a head coach prior and has so far stunk at UK.
He's the 10th lowest paid HC in the conference at a preeminent national program and the outer edge of top 40 HC college contracts, that statement alone justifies Alleva paying 3.5 mil to Eaux. Hell, he could've made Eaux the highest paid HC in college football but he's too smart for that, incentivized the contract too. You people need to grow brains.
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None of that justifies Alleva giving 3.5 million to a guy with O's resume.
He's the 10th lowest paid HC in the conference at a preeminent national program and the outer edge of top 40 HC college contracts, that statement alone justifies Alleva paying 3.5 mil to Eaux. Hell, he could've made Eaux the highest paid HC in college football but he's too smart for that, incentivized the contract too. You people need to grow brains.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:17 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Hell, he could've made Eaux the highest paid HC in college football but he's too smart for that
Aaaaaaand, this is where I stop responding to your posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:29 pm to THECEO
Stone lock
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