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re: 247 Roster Talent Rankings for 2018 Released
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:26 am to crazyLSUstudent
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:26 am to crazyLSUstudent
when was this previously an issue?
I thought Les' problem was that he let Bama "beat LSU twice" because they always quit after the bama game...now "crazyLSUstudent" is saying the team didnt care september and october? I am so confused.
I thought Les' problem was that he let Bama "beat LSU twice" because they always quit after the bama game...now "crazyLSUstudent" is saying the team didnt care september and october? I am so confused.
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:30 am to Dave England
That is what I am saying. If team lost to bama then the season was over. Also culture within the program had gotten stale.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:49 am to PaperTiger
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I can't tell you how many dumb threads were started about how if we weren't in there playoffs then people that thought 10-2 was acceptable that they were "the problem".
Well if there were so many, just produce a couple of them.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:31 pm to UpToPar
How the frick does USC have more talent than us? 
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:48 pm to LSU316
[quote]Well there is one reason and it's not players or talent. I'm sure if you think you'll get it./quote]
o-line injuries combined with the suspension of Ingram is probably what you are hinting at. Luckily we do have some solid depth but even it is running thin and limiting offense production. Would love to have all those guys back before the end of the season and finish strong. I have always advocated 'over recruiting' the trenches. Seems we have done the opposite in the past.
o-line injuries combined with the suspension of Ingram is probably what you are hinting at. Luckily we do have some solid depth but even it is running thin and limiting offense production. Would love to have all those guys back before the end of the season and finish strong. I have always advocated 'over recruiting' the trenches. Seems we have done the opposite in the past.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:49 pm to UpToPar
So about right based on what we're ranked right now.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:57 pm to Lester Earl
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truth is, we play about 5-6 other really talented teams.
we play 9 teams ranked in the top 25 on that list 2 of which are ranked in the top 3. It's a murderers row. We our o-line to get healthy and Ingram to be reinstated .
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:59 pm to twindavinci
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How the frick does USC have more talent than us?
there classes usually aren't that big in numbers but the players they do get are generally pretty highly ranked. Seems they don't do a lot of 'processing'.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:08 pm to lsu2006
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Well if there were so many, just produce a couple of them.
there were a lot of posters in threads that said we should win the SEC west this year or else. Also accused of lowering of expectations if we didn't. I think we can win the west this year (if the o-line heals up quickly) but for that to be some sort of standard for this year seems a bit unreasonable considering Bama is in the SEC west also and with Tua at QB will probably be tougher to beat than they have ever been.
Which points out a problem with these rankings. The QB position should get extra points in these talent rankings if you want to make them more relevant. Take Bama for example, they probably have had higher talent ranked teams than this in the past but they always had limitations at QB which was a weakness that made them vulnerable. Now the QB position has become a strength which has put them on a different level than in previous years.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:15 pm to TheSearch
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hankfully, 247's review does help dispel the notion that Ed Orgeron was rebuilding anything.
I honestly have never seen anyone say we are rebuilding. But have seen many say he is shoring up the trenches which was very thin and needed to be addressed.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:17 pm to timlan2057
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Good. No excuses, so let’s not hear any more of this “rebuild” bullshite.
could you link that?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:23 pm to cali-tiger
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Utah and Stanford 114 and 115. It looks like they made a mistake with there spreedsheet.
yes that has to be a mistake. Perhaps they mixed up Stanford with Samford University and some similar mistake with Utah.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:29 pm to boxcar willie
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here were a lot of posters in threads that said we should win the SEC west this year or else.
this never happened.
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Also accused of lowering of expectations if we didn't.
There were a lot of posters lamenting the fact that people like Rabalais, Culotta, etc were predicting LSU to go 7-5 and not fire O. mainly because (1) this team is too talented to only win 7 games; (2) winning only 7 games would have been a huge disappointment because of (1).
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The QB position should get extra points in these talent rankings if you want to make them more relevant.
why? thats so dumb.
What if Tua played behind LSUs patchwork OL? is he still producing at the same level? Maybe, but maybe not. Tua is good, but hes not some polynesian demigod like Moana.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:31 pm to Dave England
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I thought Les' problem was that he let Bama "beat LSU twice" because they always quit after the bama game...now "crazyLSUstudent" is saying the team didnt care september and october? I am so confused.
you are confused because he said in "November" and you some how transposed this to September and October. He was talking about the post Bama game letdown which would occur AFTER playing Alabama when we would struggle with Ole Miss, Arkansas and anyone else on our schedule post the Bama game.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:41 pm to Dave England
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What if Tua played behind LSUs patchwork OL?
he wouldn't be playing nearly as good as he is behind Bama oline but he would still be a difference maker making plays out of nothing.
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Maybe, but maybe not. Tua is good, but hes not some polynesian demigod like Moana.
don't know but the fricker can play some football and he is much more dynamic than Bama has in a long time. On a whole different level than Hurts, or McCarron, or McElroy, or Parker Wilson who were all good but pretty average.
but the point being that a player like that at QB has a much greater impact than is reflected in his impact on this roster talent rankings.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:59 pm to boxcar willie
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we play 9 teams ranked in the top 25 on that list 2 of which are ranked in the top 3
Welcome to the SEC.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:59 pm to boxcar willie
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but the point being that a player like that at QB has a much greater impact than is reflected in his impact on this roster talent rankings.
his roster ranking IS factored in though. He is a 5* QB. please find me all of the teams right now starting 5* at QB.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:01 pm to Dave England
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this never happened. quote:
how do you know "it didn't happen"? Did you read every post of every thread written over the summer? I saw it written by multiple (at least 2) posters in multiple (at least 2) threads that LSU should win the SEC west this year or the team is underachieving and Coach O should be fired. If you would have read all the same threads that I read you would have seen it also. There were a lot of threads I didn't read this summer also (much more than I actually did read). I'm am sure you read things that I didn't read as well. And NO, I am not going to go back and search to try to find it to link it for you.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:05 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Sorry, I misread your post when you said "getting them to buy in til the first week of November" as though they were just kinda going through motions up til the first week of november then got hyphee for the bama game. my apologies.
but since we're here, I may as well point out that from 2012-2015 post Bama L, LSU went 7-3. So that does not really support your narrative that LSU quit after bama if it won 7 out of 10 games over a span of 4 seasons, 9 out of 14 if you wanna throw bowl games in there.
but since we're here, I may as well point out that from 2012-2015 post Bama L, LSU went 7-3. So that does not really support your narrative that LSU quit after bama if it won 7 out of 10 games over a span of 4 seasons, 9 out of 14 if you wanna throw bowl games in there.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:10 pm to boxcar willie
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I saw it written by multiple (at least 2) posters in multiple (at least 2) threads that LSU should win the SEC west this year or the team is underachieving and Coach O should be fired.
see, when you say things like this without linking it, its very hard to take you seriously. Those are some very pointed responses for you to remember so clearly, yet cannot produce where they came from.
You are the one who is claiming this was posted. You can't take your burden of proof and shift the burden of disproof onto someone else.
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