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re: 2019 NCAA QB’s - Burrow not even mentioned...
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:15 am to dsides
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:15 am to dsides
LOVE Burrow for all the reasons you mentioned. But he is, statistically, very average at best. That's fact. In the context of this thread, there's no reason for him to be listed with those QBs.
That said, he, imo, improved late and a lot had to do with young receivers coming of age. He'll open some eyes next year.
It's funny you sarcastically saying MY retort was 'mature'. Did you read your previous retorts to BilJ?? It's why i figured you were 15. "Fricktard"? "Asshat"?
That said, he, imo, improved late and a lot had to do with young receivers coming of age. He'll open some eyes next year.
It's funny you sarcastically saying MY retort was 'mature'. Did you read your previous retorts to BilJ?? It's why i figured you were 15. "Fricktard"? "Asshat"?
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:22 am to Fishhead
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It's funny you sarcastically saying MY retort was 'mature'. Did you read your previous retorts to BilJ?? It's why i figured you were 15. "Fricktard"
Try not to read so much into a comment on a message board. It lacks maturity and awareness.
Burrow is average based on stats but what he does have you can’t measure.
And with the talent around him that’s all that matters.
Now let’s see if the coaching staff doesn’t whiff.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:27 am to dsides
Do you think Joe is a better QB than Tua, Lawrence, Herbert, etc? Or just tougher?
I think he's tougher, but he hasn't proven to be on their level as a QB.
I think he's tougher, but he hasn't proven to be on their level as a QB.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:34 am to Fishhead
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Do you think Joe is a better QB than Tua, Lawrence, Herbert, etc? Or just tougher?
Maybe not but he’s as good as mauck or Flynn.
Lots of ways to win a championship and it doesn’t take the best statistical QB.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:04 am to bencoleman
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Who the frick are you to demand an explanation from anybody?
You might ask yourself the exact same question. The guy was not belittling Burrow or anything of the sort.
Take that pole out of your keister and maybe people would take you a bit more seriously.
I know I'm wasting my time replying to this goof but he(that would be you, Ben) brings nothing of substance to this board. At all.
I guess an attempt to help a middle aged man with such anger issues to see things a little clearer is my mistake. But good grief.
Just pent up anger and rage, name calling and the accompanying behavior.
Why are you always so angry? And don't say you aren't, your own posts contradict that.
I mean you are usually seething with some sort of nonsense. "They said this and that about O and OMG..... I can't believe these negas. Why anyone would reply to them is beyond me" yet you do it on a consistent basis, even to those who just bring up a reasonable criticism, a far cry from one being a 'nega.'
No question, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion but what you aren't entitled to is dumping over anyone who remotely sees things differently than you. They're entitled to their opinions as well. Even if you don't agree with them, that's that, and move on. Be the adult. Goodness.
What is your deal?
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 1:20 am
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:33 am to la_birdman
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la_birdman
Your entire post.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:41 am to earl keese
It's mind boggling. But his retort is always the same thing, always: "You attacked me. You personally belittled me (even though he can't produce how any poster actually did so) so who are you to ask for _______ in exchange?"
The thing I find odd is that he fails to consider how his own actions make him look. "everyone else has the problem, I have it all worked out." Well that's obvious, look at your post history. (sarcasm)
In any event, t's pointless and it was poor attempt on my part to help the guy see things clearer. His mind is made up.
The thing I find odd is that he fails to consider how his own actions make him look. "everyone else has the problem, I have it all worked out." Well that's obvious, look at your post history. (sarcasm)
In any event, t's pointless and it was poor attempt on my part to help the guy see things clearer. His mind is made up.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 2:47 am
Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:32 am to la_birdman
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know I'm wasting my time replying to this goof but he(that would be you, Ben) brings nothing of substance to this board. At all
Complains about me bringing nothing of substance to the board then proceeds to bring nothing of substance to the board.
Again who are you to question what anyone brings to the board?
You attempt to start shite up with me on a regular basis. You post the same shite day after day.
You obviously have some kind of fricking problem and you need to take it to the admin.
You've got some kind of mental problem. I wasn't addressing you and I don't owe the most paranoid poster on this board an explanation for anything.
So either go to the admin and complain about me or I'll do it but either way this bullshite you're doing needs to stop because there's something wrong with you.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:36 am to la_birdman
quote:perfect response
Who the frick are you to demand an explanation from anybody? You might ask yourself the exact same question. The guy was not belittling Burrow or anything of the sort. Take that pole out of your keister and maybe people would take you a bit more seriously. I know I'm wasting my time replying to this goof but he(that would be you, Ben) brings nothing of substance to this board. At all. I guess an attempt to help a middle aged man with such anger issues to see things a little clearer is my mistake. But good grief. Just pent up anger and rage, name calling and the accompanying behavior. Why are you always so angry? And don't say you aren't, your own posts contradict that. I mean you are usually seething with some sort of nonsense. "They said this and that about O and OMG..... I can't believe these negas. Why anyone would reply to them is beyond me" yet you do it on a consistent basis, even to those who just bring up a reasonable criticism, a far cry from one being a 'nega.' No question, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion but what you aren't entitled to is dumping over anyone who remotely sees things differently than you. They're entitled to their opinions as well. Even if you don't agree with them, that's that, and move on. Be the adult. Goodness. What is your deal?
Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:54 am to RedMan2
Burrow is a very good QB, Probably the 2nd best in the SEC (after Tua) but his stats weren't that great this past season. He has all the attributes of an elite QB (composure, leadership, intelligence, toughness, accuracy, strong arm, mobility, etc.) to go along with the prototypical size that the NFL likes. This coming season he should be able to put up the kind of stats that will bring him more attention on the national level. With a solid 2019 season he could easily slip into the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft.
Also next season will determine whether or not he gets the kind of recognition from the fan base and on the national level that will put him in the conversation as one of the best LSU QB's of the last 10-20 years and one of the top 5 in LSU history.
also consider this, if Burrow can lead LSU to as good a season in 2019 as this past season it will mark the first time since the 2006 and 2007 seasons that LSU finished ranked 6 or better nationally combined with a 2nd (or at least tied for 2nd) or better SEC finish in two consecutive seasons. That would be the two best back to back seasons in 12 long years.
Also next season will determine whether or not he gets the kind of recognition from the fan base and on the national level that will put him in the conversation as one of the best LSU QB's of the last 10-20 years and one of the top 5 in LSU history.
also consider this, if Burrow can lead LSU to as good a season in 2019 as this past season it will mark the first time since the 2006 and 2007 seasons that LSU finished ranked 6 or better nationally combined with a 2nd (or at least tied for 2nd) or better SEC finish in two consecutive seasons. That would be the two best back to back seasons in 12 long years.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 5:06 am
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:05 am to boxcar willie
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He has all the attributes of an elite QB (composure, leadership, intelligence, toughness, accuracy, strong arm, mobility, etc.) to go along with the prototypical size that the NFL likes
This right here. There was a guy on the first page that compared his arm to a 10th graders. I don't see how anyone could come to that conclusion. He'd never complete a pass if that was so. Joe has a good if not great arm. He's got more zip than Etling ever had. I'm hoping that Joe has a career in the NFL. I honestly thought Mett would have so who knows.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:08 am to bencoleman
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There was a guy on the first page that compared his arm to a 10th graders. I don't see how anyone could come to that conclusion.
that is completely laughable. What a marrooon. While there are QB's with stronger arms, he has a strong arm that is well above the average college QB.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:20 am to justice
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justice
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:23 am to boxcar willie
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that is completely laughable. What a marrooon. While there are QB's with stronger arms, he has a strong arm that is well above the average college QB
You have to wonder what game they're watching. Plus the poster that wanted to take yards off of Joe's total because he didn't like the team's defense that LSU happened to be playing.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:27 am to earl keese
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earl keese
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:41 am to Tigersonfire
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Ole Joe will go down as an LSU favorite in the end as he should because of his balls and heart but not because of his arm.
Agreed with majority of your comments, but IMO, learning a system, coaches, players and playbook in 3 months does not lend to the probability of success, especially in the SEC. And, actually his results were acceptable, if not good. It is said that “‘players’ are made in the off season”; Burreaux had none, but will have one this year though.
Also important in the success of a QB in this team sport is his pass protection and secondly, the vitality of a run game. Prematurely losing three starting 2017 O-lineman on an already depleted line was painful. Also, 2018 run blocking and RBs, while gallant, were not exceptional-further adding stress to a new QB in a new situation. Importantly, the receivers also were average, and if you’ll recall the last FL drive, not one but two drops -back to back- led to the desperation forced 4th down pick six. Either ball caught would have led to a first down. During the season, the performance of these units were not his doing.
In 2019, there will be newfound O-line experience, continuity and depth, major RB upgrade and depth, and hopefully receivers that live up to their hype. And Burreaux will have a year of experience under his belt and an important off-season to hone his team building skills. The only negative is the loss of Moreau, who was a consummate team player.
In short, this 2019 dog will hunt!
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:47 am to whoyodaddy
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The only negative is the loss of Moreau, who was a consummate team player.
Loved what Moreau brought to the team, but if Pettigrew and/or Moss are anywhere near what they are advertised to be, TE position should be a big asset to the offense in 2019
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:49 am to whoyodaddy
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Also important in the success of a QB in this team sport is his pass protection and secondly, the vitality of a run game. Prematurely losing three starting 2017 O-lineman on an already depleted line was painful. Also, 2018 run blocking and RBs, while gallant, were not exceptional-further adding stress to a new QB in a new situation. Importantly, the receivers also were average, and if you’ll recall the last FL drive, not one but two drops -back to back- led to the desperation forced 4th down pick six. Either ball caught would have led to a first down. During the season, the performance of these units were not his doing.
In 2019, there will be newfound O-line experience, continuity and depth, major RB upgrade and depth, and hopefully receivers that live up to their hype. And Burreaux will have a year of experience under his belt and an important off-season to hone his team building skills. The only negative is the loss of Moreau, who was a consummate team player.
In short, this 2019 dog will hunt
Joe's detractors and offense complainers all love to ignore all of the above.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:50 am to bencoleman
I really don't care who rates Joe Burrow high, low, or not at all.
Many of our resident genius fans
(also known as Rantards) don't know enough football to truly even express an opinion yet they continuously say absolutely stupid shite.
Instead of worrying about some obscure QB list consider this question. How many other QBs could (or would) have transferred into the situation at LSU all of 6 weeks before opening vs. Miami, won the starting job, learning the offense on the fly, attend classes at a completely new University, and gone out and produced the season we just witnessed?
Go ahead all you who feel Joe Burrow did an "Average Job", tell us your opinions of exactly WTF is "Average" about Joe Burrow.
By the way, some of you should stop all this "strong arm crap". A strong arm guarantees zip. Go ask Brandon Harris
what his supposed great arm strength got him? Many of you dimwits thought Harris was going to shine at UNC under Larry Fedora. Lol.
Or, maybe ask the other darling of the Rantards, Lowell Narcisse how his great arm strength helped him at Gulf Coast JC where he was beaten out by a true freshman yet you dumbasses wanted to give him the starting Job at LSU IN THE DAMN SEC.
The problem is many of you stupid mofos just run your mouths and act like you know wtf you are talking about but in reality many of you are nothing more than Parrots who are just repeating nonsense you have heard from other dumbasses.
Joe Burrow did one Hell of a job at LSU this year and will only get better as he actually has time to be much more acclimated to LSU and the coaches, etc.
I cringe to think where LSU would have been without Joe Burrow this year because none of the other QBs were ready and only Miles Brennan has SEC talent. Thanks Joe and thanks to Coach Orgeron and Ensminger for getting a QB to LSU under dire circumstances and averting potential disaster.
Many of our resident genius fans
(also known as Rantards) don't know enough football to truly even express an opinion yet they continuously say absolutely stupid shite.
Instead of worrying about some obscure QB list consider this question. How many other QBs could (or would) have transferred into the situation at LSU all of 6 weeks before opening vs. Miami, won the starting job, learning the offense on the fly, attend classes at a completely new University, and gone out and produced the season we just witnessed?
Go ahead all you who feel Joe Burrow did an "Average Job", tell us your opinions of exactly WTF is "Average" about Joe Burrow.
By the way, some of you should stop all this "strong arm crap". A strong arm guarantees zip. Go ask Brandon Harris
what his supposed great arm strength got him? Many of you dimwits thought Harris was going to shine at UNC under Larry Fedora. Lol.
Or, maybe ask the other darling of the Rantards, Lowell Narcisse how his great arm strength helped him at Gulf Coast JC where he was beaten out by a true freshman yet you dumbasses wanted to give him the starting Job at LSU IN THE DAMN SEC.
The problem is many of you stupid mofos just run your mouths and act like you know wtf you are talking about but in reality many of you are nothing more than Parrots who are just repeating nonsense you have heard from other dumbasses.
Joe Burrow did one Hell of a job at LSU this year and will only get better as he actually has time to be much more acclimated to LSU and the coaches, etc.
I cringe to think where LSU would have been without Joe Burrow this year because none of the other QBs were ready and only Miles Brennan has SEC talent. Thanks Joe and thanks to Coach Orgeron and Ensminger for getting a QB to LSU under dire circumstances and averting potential disaster.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 5:57 am
Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:22 am to rob62
Bravo! Bravo! Salute!
Absolutely dead on! Thanks for taking the time to put a few things in perspective! The sad part though, is most of the rantards your comments are directed at won't know it's meant for them, they'll just take up a stance of denial or they'll come back with more ill-informed parrot echos!
Absolutely dead on! Thanks for taking the time to put a few things in perspective! The sad part though, is most of the rantards your comments are directed at won't know it's meant for them, they'll just take up a stance of denial or they'll come back with more ill-informed parrot echos!
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