1989 Football revisited

Mike Archer's lack of recruiting caught up. LSU's Larry Coker.

I remember the Tennessee game. Traded 4 lower bowl for first row of upper deck. But the highlight of the day was seeing the basketball team practice with Shaq, Chris Jackson and Roberts.

Should Archer have been kept longer in your opinion? Imagine had we gotten Spurrier like we could have.

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Should Archer have been kept longer in your opinion?

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yes. I don't think he would have lasted but he should have be given another year IMO.

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Imagine had we gotten Spurrier like we could have

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he was rather unknown at the time and it never got close to him being hired.

Im not saying Archer was some great coach who would have been here forever, no. But I think he would have done better than Curley did.

Just gets crapped on by LSU fans for really no reason.

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Are you serious?

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you are a perfect example.

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Were you even alive when Archer was hired

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You're a cherry picker. Not addressing all of the facts.

Recruiting wise, I have stated many of the HIGHLY RATED texas players recruited by Archer did not pan out here. His recruiting classes were highly ranked. You make no reference to the Prop 48 restrictions the SEC had that Bobby Bowden and FSU didn't have. No mention of FSU being able to take every non qualifier that LSU had to turn away. So there were other issues with recruiting.

You use the NFL draft as a example of bad recruiting yet no mention of Hallman running off many Archer recruits because they wouldn't send their "earrings back to their momma in a box".

Curley recruited, never said he didn't. But he didn't retain and that 2 and fricking 9 season will forever be at his feet cause he ran players off cause they wore fricking jewelry.


I've stated that Archer was not great by any means. But the 90's would have been a much better decade for this program if Archer had been fired after 91 instead of 90. There would have been no curley, who you seem to think had success here

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There would have been no curley, who you seem to think had success here

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lol, wut? feel free to quote me where I said Curley had success at LSU. I stated he was a good recruiter and terrible at everything else.

Also, feel free to name these stud recruits who left LSU because of earrings, and I'm assuming they wound up elsewhere and were wildly successful, so please enlighten me.

Just because Curley sucked doesn't mean that Archer was good. In fact, Archer started the decline. That really isn't even up for debate except for his cousins on here. If we kept Archer another year, that would have been another year without any talent or direction.

Short answer to what happened in 1989:

Who did the recruiting during the Arnsparger years?

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Who did the recruiting during the Arnsparger years?

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It certainly was not Bill as that was one of the main reasons he wanted out. Hated recruiting.


Staff was Archer as DC (he coached under Schnellenbeger at Miami as well) and Ed Zaunbrecker (spelling) as OC. I think the guy who has been on staff for a long time, Sam Nadar was kind of the recruiting coordinator.

That's from memory but I think Im pretty close. It was a solid staff. LSU suffered many years because of Prop 48, Louisiana high schools couldn't get players to met those requirements and the SEC only let you have 2 I think, at one point it was none. Where other schools (Like FSU or Miami) could come on into LA and take all these kids LSU couldn't get in school.

It was a fricking disaster and contributed to LSU's struggles as much as anything actually

Why do you keep claiming that the SEC (and, apparently, poor LSU more than the rest of the SEC) was the only group saddled with Prop 48?

Clip from history: FSU in 1989 and Prop 48 impact

And, btw, Prop 48 continued to be around for DiNardo and Saban early years, I believe.

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LSU suffered many years because of Prop 48, Louisiana high schools couldn't get players to met those requirements and the SEC only let you have 2 I think, at one point it was none. Where other schools (Like FSU or Miami) could come on into LA and take all these kids LSU couldn't get in school.

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I thought Prop 48 was for the whole
NCAA.

Anyway, Archer gave Scott Wharten (Chancellor Jim's son)a scholly to play on the D line. He would be a starter for Hallman because there was nobody better. Archer left an empty cupboard for Hallman and it took 4 years for Hallman to bring in enough talent for us to be competitive. Hallman could recruit and talk but nothing else (similar to Butch Jones).