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1 interim Head Coach Dabo Swinney vs 1 interim Head Coach Ed Orgeron

Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:06 am
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4664 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:06 am
Dabo Swinney Coaching experience

COACHING EXPERIENCE

Graduate assistant coach at Alabama (1993-95) ... wide receivers/tight ends at Alabama (1996) ... tight ends at Alabama (1997) ... wide receivers at Alabama (1998-00) ... wide receivers at Clemson (2003-06) ... assistant head coach/wide receivers at Clemson (2007 - Oct. 13, 2008) ... interim head coach/offensive coordinator at Clemson (Oct. 13 - Dec. 1, 2008) ... head coach at Clemson (2009-15).

Ed Orgeron’s Coaching Experience
LSU Tigers
Head Coach
2016-Present
LSU Tigers
Interim Head Coach
2016
LSU Tigers
Defensive Line Coach
2015-2016
USC Trojans
Interim Head Coach
2013
USC Trojans
Defensive Line Coach
2010-2013
Tennessee Volunteers
Assistant Head Coach
2009
New Orleans Saints
Defensive Line Coach
2008
Mississippi Rebels
Head Coach
2005-2007
USC Trojans
Assistant Head Coach
1998-2004
Syracuse Orange
Defensive Line Coach
1995-1997
Nicholls State
Linebackers Coach
1994
Miami Hurricanes
Defensive Line Coach
1988-1992
Arkansas Razorbacks
Asst. Strength Coach
1986-1987
McNeese State
Graduate Assistant
1985
Northwestern State
Graduate Assistant
1984


Dabo is now consider a TOP 5 Head Football Coach

Reason - he earned it

Ed Orgeron - is only measured by his poor job at
Ole Miss - I am going to give the man 3 years and
see what he earns.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32634 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:20 am to
Clemson when Dabo took over wasn’t a top 25 job. LSU was a top 10 job with Ed O took over.

At this point - we are forced to give him at least 3 years. What drives me nuts is the fact that he was severely under qualified, crashed and burned at his only HC spot and more than anything- the lack of any search. At all. Joe missed on his only target and tried to hire O before Texas announced Herman so he could save face and say that’s who he wanted all along. He had time. No one wanted O. South Florida and Houston didn’t even consider him.

You do realize that O openly said he would be interested in the Syracuse job when it was available a couple of years ago and they didn’t even give him an interview.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 6:23 am
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:21 am to
The difference: Orgeron has a proven track record as an absolute failure as a head coach. Dabo didn't have that when he got the Clemson head coaching position.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58755 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:23 am to
O didn’t earn the head coaching job at LSU.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:27 am to
Bear Bryant lost 4 games his first year at Bama

TRUST DA PROCESS AND TRUST DA COEAUXCH OEAUX
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4664 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:28 am to
quote:

You do realize that O openly said he would be interested in the Syracuse job when it was available a couple of years ago and they didn’t even give him an interview.


I understand and I have been going to Tiger games since 1961. I am just as much a Tiger fan as anyone but I can't bring myself to hate on CEO as my coach. Joe made the decision to hire ED and not me. As a fan all I can do is pull for the Tigers and look for the best. I started this thread because Dabo had not done much to earn the job at Clemson but he got the job. This season he will have his 7th 10 win season in a row.

I am taking the Tigers one game at a time but since the Auburn game I have been very impressed with what I am seeing out of the team. This will be his first full cycle recruiting class coming up. Odds are in our favor to finish out 10-3 and after looking bad against MSU and Troy finishing out 10-3 would be a good close but not what I want.

I want to beat Bama and win the SEC like every other Tiger fan and at this moment I am very happy having CEO as my coach compared to Coach Miles.

This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 6:29 am
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:30 am to
why do so many people act like this is O's first HC job?

The comparison to Dabo makes no sense.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I started this thread because Dabo had not done much to earn the job at Clemson but he got the job. This season he will have his 7th 10 win season in a row.

He also wasn't a historically bad coach at, say, North Carolina State 8-9 years before they hired him. Had he won 3 ACC games in 3 years at another school before Clemson hired him your comparison would make sense
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32634 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:35 am to
quote:

I am very happy having CEO as my coach compared to Coach Miles.
It didn’t have to be a Miles or O decision.

Also you can accept mediocrity if you want. Reality of the situation is we wanted to fire miles after he went 9-3 in 2015 and should have been 10-3 (McNeese got canceled).

Now all of a sudden is a huge success to go 10-3.

I won’t lower my standards for LSU. Really we should have 1 loss, sitting at #4 in the polls.

O gets 3 years. If he can’t produce then him and Clown show Joe are out.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:41 am to
You can spin shite all you want.

He was NEVER 3-21 (or whatever) as a head coach for a school.
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4664 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:41 am to
quote:

I won’t lower my standards for LSU. Really we should have 1 loss, sitting at #4 in the polls.


thats so much bull-shite

have you done anything in life to say we really should have

should have is a total Monday morning bull-shite statement

Beating any team we face is not a given and the team was not ready period.

FSU should not have fallen apart this year with Jimbo as Head Coach but they did.

Our team was not ready for MSU or Troy but this staff pulled this team together and right now there are only a hand full of teams that can beat this team right now.

Your standards ??

We all want to win the SEC every year you idiot

Do you think your standards are higher than mine ?
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4664 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:45 am to
quote:

Can we stop with this? If a kid decides not to come to LSU because of some fans on a message board, there are way, way bigger problems with the program (and probably with said kid).




No we can't stop it - I read this site everyday and everyday the bitching about Joe and CEO never stops

Of course when you are a jack arse it hard not to be what your are 24/7

Geaux Tigers

If you are a young man coming to Baton Rouge let me assure you that the 10 or 12 jerks that post on this site 24/7 do no reflect the good folk of Baton Rouge.


Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:46 am to
quote:

re: 1 interim Head Coach Dabo Swinney vs 1 interim Head Coach Ed OrgeronPosted on 11/17/17 at 6:28 am to Solo Cam quote: You do realize that O openly said he would be interested in the Syracuse job when it was available a couple of years ago and they didn’t even give him an interview. I understand and I have been going to Tiger games since 1961. I am just as much a Tiger fan as anyone but I can't bring myself to hate on CEO as my coach. Joe made the decision to hire ED and not me. As a fan all I can do is pull for the Tigers and look for the best. I started this thread because Dabo had not done much to earn the job at Clemson but he got the job. This season he will have his 7th 10 win season in a row. I am taking the Tigers one game at a time but since the Auburn game I have been very impressed with what I am seeing out of the team. This will be his first full cycle recruiting class coming up. Odds are in our favor to finish out 10-3 and after looking bad against MSU and Troy finishing out 10-3 would be a good close but not what I want. I want to beat Bama and win the SEC like every other Tiger fan and at this moment I am very happy having CEO as my coach compared to Coach Miles.

We fired Miles for a better season this year if we would have kept him. We should have 2 losses. Unimpressive. In fact had Miles stayed I have no doubt he wins more games last year.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:46 am to
Stop
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:46 am to
And why do so many people act like a coach can't change things up and be better? I understand the whole argument but to base coach O off of his ole miss performance is stupid. He admitted he wasn't ready for that job. I'm not saying he will come in and have LSU at Bama's level in a year, but I think he can do great things in the future. If not, fire him. I can see why people are pissed, and I was too, but why not get behind him now and hope for him and the team to succeed? The hire was mad, it's over. Let the cards fall where they may.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:48 am to
You are not a very smart man
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Bengal26


Umm, this thread is comparing O to Dabo. Dabo was never a HC before he was interim at Clemson, O was. Think it's pretty fair, again in a comparison thread, to say that O was a coach before he was interim here
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32634 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:13 am to
quote:

have you done anything in life to say we really should have
Are you fuching kidding? Yes. Every single mistake I’ve ever made i say “I should have done that differently”
quote:

Beating any team we face is not a given and the team was not ready period.
Under no circumstances, ever, should LSU lose to State by 30 or Troy. Ever.

quote:

FSU should not have fallen apart this year with Jimbo as Head Coach but they did.
I love O pumpers saying this shite. His starting QB went down. His starting QB and RB are true freshman. Also Jimbo has a title, he gets a down year.

quote:

Our team was not ready for MSU or Troy but this staff pulled this team together and right now there are only a hand full of teams that can beat this team right now.
Too bad the entire season counts. The team wasn’t ready because the staff didn’t have them ready. Again- LSU should never lose to State by 30 or lose to Troy.

quote:

Do you think your standards are higher than mine ?
My standards are clearly higher, your happy with mediocrity. I’m not.
Posted by KingMo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1502 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Clemson when Dabo took over wasn’t a top 25 job. LSU was a top 10 job with Ed O took over.


LSU was #20 in the final college football playoff rankings for 2015 and 2016. We were not a top 10 program when coach O took over.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12174 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:19 am to
You have people here that actually think this is normal
quote:

TRUST DA PROCESS AND TRUST DA COEAUXCH OEAUX


quote:

why do so many people act like this is O's first HC job?

And you're asking this?

More important question is, wtf is "DA PROCESS, DA COEAUXCH OEAUX"??

We have some truly embarrassingly ignorant Fuchs running around this joint
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