re: When Does LSU get an Elite Top 5 QB as a freshman???

Jacob Eason had a 55% completion pct, threw for 2,430 yards, 16 TDS and 8 interceptions as a freshman. Screams elite. So elite that he’s transferring.

But you can develop a QB to be the next Hurts, Sims, Coker, McCarron, McElroy or Wilson at Bama. Or Nick Marshall at Auburn. Or Nick Fitzgerald, at MSU who by the way followed Dak Prescott, who was not highly rated as a QB. But was developed by Mullins. Are you arguing Dak Prescott would be developed to the point he is now a starting QB in the NFL had he come to LSU under Miles? I highly doubt it.

You name the super star QBs for the proposition that talent determines QB success. I say development is of utmost importance. LSU recruited highly ranked QBs under Miles but didn’t develop even one who was considered a highly successful college QB. Not one. Your position is that every one of them was misevaluated. Well those 4 Star QBs were also evaluated by others. I say with proper development, at least one of those QBs would have ended up a highly successful QB at LSU. Rather than LSU winning despite the QB.

Looking at the QBs Miles recruited, under your argument what was missing? Arm talent? I think not. Harris, Lee and Jefferson had arm talent better than most. Physical ability? I can’t think of one QB that didn’t have the physical talent. It all came done to the mental aspects of the game. Despite what many claim, none of those QBs were dumb. It was the lack of development that caused their failings. It was Mile’s fear of the turnover that precluded proper development.

It’s like a 3 point shooter. If you continually sit him for missing a couple and destroy his confidence, he would never become a great shooter if he is afraid of missing. No QB afraid to throw the ball will be good. Great QBs, like great 3 point shooters, must have no fear and utmost confidence. However that confidence can be coached out of you. And it also can be coached into you. Jared Lee is a perfect example. Great arm talent. But he was afraid of getting hit. I would have live hitting during practice to show him he will not die from getting hit. Take the fear out of Lee and he is one of the better QBs of his era. By the time Harris left LSU he was a nervous wreak. He came to LSU as a gunslinger with swagger. His first few games showed his potential. Play not to lose Les Miles coached all of that right out of him.

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It isn't the recruitment that's the issue, it's the development.

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In the past there wasn't a lot of development needed for handoffs, toss dives and throw it downfield on a hope and a prayer.

when was the last time LSU had a 2000+ throwing season from a QB

yeah the mark should have been 3000 and take out the one year for mettenberger. Elite defenses(2011 LSU) aint getting you to the championship game anymore you need a stud QB.

I meant freshman* QB my bad

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Despite what many claim, none of those QBs were dumb

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This is an oversimplification. Being able to make quick, simple decisions is a kind of intelligence, but it’s different than “real” intelligence. Lot’s of dummies have been good QBs.

To use JJ as an example, I sat in Vandy’s stadium and watched JJ simply unable to hit a wide open receiver in the flat. Man, that has nothing to do with development. He just was not very good.

Drew Brees....one scholly offer out of high school. First ballot HOF

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Brennan was the #6 PRO QB in 2017
Narcisse was #9 DT QB in 2017 WITHOUT playing for 2 years
Harris was the #3 DT QB in 2014

It isn't the recruitment that's the issue, it's the development.

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Except that some recruits will never pan out for whatever reason it may be. Not every player develops well past high school. Jefferson was one of the best sophomore QB's in CFB and then regressed. Lee had ups and downs. Mett developed well. We got stuck in a rutt with Harris and Jennings, both were regarded well as HS players, but didn't pan out in college. The QB class Jennings was in was pretty awful in general.

lol kid isnt d1 material sry