re: What really happened with Janzen

what a joke the man used his son to better himself
kif is going to take care of himself
Tenn is done
what a waste

Shoulda told his dad that if he loved Saban so much to go stand in the Bama line to suck his dick.

I'm not going to trash the kid or his family, nor even Kiffin. But I can tell you that Kiffin made a choice to use tactics that will hurt UT in the long term.

After what happened this year, I fully expect that Miles, Myers, and Saban will all be telling their recruits that if they take a trip to UT they will not be getting a scholarship offer. And any scholarships that have been offered will automatically be rescinded if a trip to UT is taken. I wouldn't be surprised if some other SEC schools join in, especially SC and UGA.

Now, if you are a recruit, would you take a trip to UT knowing that this will eliminate any and all interest from all of the top teams in the SEC? Not if you are unsure like most of these kids are.

You reap what you sow. Bad move Kiffin. You are screwed.

That's just it... It's not my way or the highway. Explore all the options available to you ... except one. UT convinces recruits to lie to us, and we aren't putting up with it again this year. Enjoy the rest of your visits.

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And one other thing, that's pretty much what Saban did this year. Bama clearly suffered no ill effects from this policy.

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I believe if that's true it's because most of Bama's recruits had all but made up their minds to go to Bama.

Recruiting is a sales pitch. You start recruiting a kid without letting him explore whatever options he wants, or tell him specifically that he CANT do something OR ELSE and you might as well pack his bags for Knoxville (with exceptions of course).

Perhaps if only one school were doing it, you might be right. But as I said if most of the SEC adopts the same policy that recruit might be giving up chances at LSU, UF, Bama, UGA, and SC just to see what UT has to offer. What would you do?

I'm surprised not one person has mentioned Ed Orgeron's role in all of this mess. Don't be surprised if Daddy Guidry winds up as an assistant coach or in some kind of job at Tennessee in the next few years........

lowerbama, how do you feel about kiffin/sarkisian while at usc together?

I'm not bitter in anyway he left bama fan. I was just stating some of the facts

FWIW - if I committed to LSU and my dad's a coach, I know the consequences if I pulled crap like that. If I was a recruiter going against Guidry, I would use his son's recruiting as an example of what kind of person he really is. As far as JJ, if I want to play DB in the pro's and am about to cause the crap he caused, I would have signed with Satan. At least, he has a track record for putting good DB's in the pro's. With Ole Man Kiffin leaving in a year, JJ will not sniff the field and will be stuck up there wishing he was somewhere else.