re: USC now with 31 recruits

Jesus Christ. Ok here it is layed out for you, and please sticky this fricking thread for reference!

We are appealing therefore no recruiting stipulations can be enforced currently (we took the one-year bowl ban without appeal so as not to affect recruiting in the future).

The NCAA maximum amount any school can sign is 25. USC signed 23, which means we can still sign two more (and we probably will imo).

The eight early enrollees count towards the COI's brillant "free agency" clause (never done before and completely preposterous) that let Jr. and Sr. players transfer out freely, and those numbers also reflect other attrition.

That being said, we could have taken 9 EEs, but took 8 EEs because CB Wiley needs to still take a class to enroll (and he was considered an EE).

Before signing day, we had 58 scholarship players, including the early enrollees (which means we only had 50 scholarship players to begin with). We have signed a class of 23. That means we have 81 scholarship players now. I believe we will sign two more players, and give two scholarships to walk-on Seniors (taking us to 85 total).

We lose 13 seniors next year (and we'll include the hypothetical 2 Senior walk-ons getting scholarships).

Without any other type of attrition (injury, early draft entries, "free agency" stupidity) we would have 70 players on scholarship.

Therefore we could take 5 players total in the 2012 class.

The end...

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love how some of you act like you know what is actually going on.

Let me ask you do you work for the NCAA, how do you know all this? Truth is SC has worked with the NCAA on what they can and cannot do. All of you are so hung up on kiffin does this and that. He's not in charge. Pat Haden and John McKay are, they are the ones that advise Kiff and the staff on what to do. If the appeal is denied we will have a small class next year.





This info was from your own people.

Idiot.

LINK /

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You do realize that was before the appeals process was scheduled since the article was written on October 12th of last year.

Who's the idiot?

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I bet USC loses 3 games this year

And fire Kid Kiffen after next season

They suck as long as he and O are leading that program

Character matters and they have little character

that's how i see it, that's how I call it

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Thank you for your $.02, and here is your change...

Sounds like this guy from the OC Register has it about right.....

Normally schools are limited to awarded 25 scholarships each year so long as their total roster does not exceed 85. Every school is allowed to sign up to 10 early enrollees that count against the prior year’s annual limit. So for ’10 SC was allowed to bring in 25 guys. Hall (who never enrolled in ’09), Baxter & Prater enrolled early so they counted against ’09. 13 FR eventually enrolled for Fall ’10 & 4 more received scholarships (Markowitz, Cumming, Houston & MIA TR Collier) so SC only used 17 scholarships against the 25 limit (-8/-12). Assuming nobody transfers or leaves early SC will return 57 for ’11.

If the appeal is denied before 2/11 the limits for ’11 will be 15/75. So SC could bring in 3-8 early enrollees & sign 10-15 (18 combined) for 75 in ’11. Again assuming no transfers or early departures SC would lose 19 current JRs & be able to add only 15 for 71 in ’12. SC would lose 14 current SOs & be able to add only 15 for 69 in ’13. SC would lose 24 current FR & be able to add 25 for ’70 in ’14. Assuming all of the new players added from ’11-’13 come straight out of HS & none RS or leave early SC would lose 18 & be able to add 25 for 77 in ’15. Then SC would lose 15 & be able to add 23 to get up to ’85

Sid my information is correct. The end.

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I bet USC loses 3 games this year

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9-3. considering the roster and status. Maybe so.

Well, your information isn't exactly correct.

USC is limited to 75 scholarships total for the 2011-12, 12-13 and 13-14 years. This limit is for the upcoming season. If the appeals process takes place this spring you're going to be 10 players over the limit according to the numbers you provided.

The numbers I quoted are directly from the NCAA report issued on June 10, 2010 listing the violations and sanctions. I can link it if you'd like.

No you're wrong. I am 100% correct on this.

Please don't waste my time on this. As you will see this will be the case.

Thanks for not replying.

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You know they will. Every time you post facts concerning USC that aren't negative, you will get Freddy Kruger, Jason Bates and Michael Myers all resurrecting themselves in a flurry of superfluous sequels that pretty much post the same irrelevant and incorrect things.

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bottom line is your last coach bailed on you. your new coach is scum.

and most of your fans are bandwagon.

By the time kiffen gets done with your program the bandwagon will be empty and you will have to pay kim kardashian to drive it in high heels.


USC will be the Michigan of the next decade.