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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:29 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:29 am to
the big issue with him at LB is that we lose out a lot with his ability to cause interceptions

dude plays the ball like a WR and has amazing hands

he's also going to probably be amazing at stopping RZ passing routes like the fade
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:40 am to
I think playing him at Nickel would better suit him than linebacker. He can cover, cause disruptions, and stop the run closer to the line of scrimmage.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8695 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:04 pm to
This guy could be the next Kam Chancellor..

That's why Saban calls him every Wednesday
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
55775 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:10 pm to
Hell yeah
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15803 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

What makes you guys say his motor isn't always at 100%?


The HS games I watched, he plays both ways, offense and defense, so he conserves a lot of energy.

When on defense, he only puts an effort into the guy he is covering. When the ball is say, ran to his side, he doesn't attempt run support, but rather lets the LB's and safeties come up to makle the tackle. There was one play where the RB came his way and he was the first line of defense and he literally did not take one step towards the RB who eventually gained 40 yards.

With that said, it's only a by-product of having to conserve energy to be on the field at all times. So it's a non-issue. But that's why some posters come away with that lack-of-motor impression.

But he is easily the best athlete on the field. On defense, he has PP7/Claiborne ball skills/hands. As a WR, he does what he wants: catch over a guy deep or take a short catch and Peter Warrick's them with YAC. He is a playmaker.

I would have liked to see him in HS being physical on defense even just once, but I get the conserving energy part. Once he is full-time on D in college, he has the physical tools (ht/wt/frame/4.55 speed/hands/agility/quickness/great vertical) to be more physical and developed to attack.

His ball skills suggest CB and even WR. His frame suggests LB. His adequate speed suggests safety. Dude is just an athlete who makes big plays. Just get him on the field.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
2145 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:33 pm to
Thanks for the answer. Exactly what I wanted to know
Posted by LSUfonte
South Texas
Member since Jan 2004
8256 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:38 pm to
From my high school in the Boro. I'm very happy to have an Oakland patriot in the P&G....
Posted by twisted tiger
Neverland
Member since Nov 2013
452 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:53 pm to
This kid can ball
Posted by BigSlick
No Idea
Member since Jan 2013
1229 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

we stopped redshirting anyone other than QBs and OLs


When most of your junior class leaves early, or at least all the best ones, there may be little choice but to burn redshits because you need depth.

Also, Bryan Urlacher came out of Arizona as a safety and wound up as a pretty decent linebacker in the NFL. If Stephens has the frame to carry enough weight, why couldn't he start out at safety while he bulks up to switch later?
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:04 pm to
Who df is Jacoby Stephens #?! You mean Jacoby Stevens
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75792 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Also, Bryan Urlacher came out of Arizona as a safety and wound up as a pretty decent linebacker in the NFL.


Nah

quote:

When most of your junior class leaves early, or at least all the best ones, there may be little choice but to burn redshits because you need depth.


How does this pertain to Riley, who only played special teams for 3 years before starting in his senior year?
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8055 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:11 pm to
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TNTigerman


The real MVP.


LSUFreek,

Clutch.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12396 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:14 pm to
DBU is gettig restocked for sure.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2918 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:20 pm to
I think we will see a different philosophy with guys like this. He might actually get plays on offense.

I would like to see our highest skilled guys get to play on both sides of the ball.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
2145 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:21 pm to
I just watched some files about an hour ago. I think this guy could be used like Jabrill Peppers
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10750 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:25 pm to
Thanks for the update.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:59 pm to
He will play where he wants to...just as long as he doesn't play for Shorty....btw, what's with these Blammer turds that just won't stay from out site...pitiful losers...
Posted by snackpack
Member since Dec 2005
3131 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:17 pm to
What his Stephens speed like that? Kinda big so concerns me
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
840 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:41 am to

/I mean, were the 17 special teams snaps (lowballing for effect) Duke Riley got as a freshman more valuable than the potential senior year he could have had next year? I seriously doubt it/

One of the most legit points made on this board ever and it can be said about plenty of players . We miss a big year out of a player for a few snaps. Used to play these guys early in some rent a wins and still redshirt
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76717 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:25 am to
I assure you that he is an elite athlete.
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