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re: Trent's Fab Five (BBall recruiting)

Posted on 1/26/09 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by tiger20
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 5:44 pm to
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If Trent works the area harder than Brady did, we should be able to land a few of them.


Every LSU coach has relentlessly "worked " the New Orleans area for the top prospects. New Orleasn kids are hell bent on going out of state. The only three New Orleans area LSU playres of note are Jordy Hltberg, Randy Livingston and Duane Spencer ( who originally signed with Georgetwon).

If Trent can reverse the trend it will be great. It won't be because he worked the area harder.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 6:40 pm to
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It won't be because he worked the area harder.


The reason will be because he worked it harder. Other then Greg and DJ, Brady didn't look at any N.O. kids besides them. The only other ones he tried to get were Biko Paris and Dwight Lewis but he didn't try to get them until late in their senior years.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 6:46 pm to
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Timmie was once a QB for LSu Football but later transferred to USM.


He killed us in the playoffs back in 80 or 81 @ Denham Springs High too........great player.

Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 7:54 pm to
Side note - I just watched the highlight package of Brian Williams (Glen Oaks) embedded in the article on the front page of the Scout site. I didn't realize he could rise like that. For 6'4, he can jump out of the gym.
Posted by latiger09
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:32 pm to
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Every LSU coach has relentlessly "worked " the New Orleans area for the top prospects. New Orleasn kids are hell bent on going out of state.


i see. so what is it exactly that makes just about every new orleans area kid that lsu wants for football come to lsu if they are so hell bent on going out of state?

kids want to play for 1) a coach that can make them better and they enjoy playing for, and 2) a quality team.

lsu finally has the first of those for the first time in over 10 years. hopefully the second will come in time for all these 2012 kids.

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If Trent can reverse the trend it will be great. It won't be because he worked the area harder.




then what will it be?
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:56 pm to
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Side note - I just watched the highlight package of Brian Williams (Glen Oaks) embedded in the article on the front page of the Scout site. I didn't realize he could rise like that. For 6'4, he can jump out of the gym.


That video was the past summer where he was playing against 15 year old kids as a HS junior to be. His rise is impressive but them high lights were against young kids. He is a good player though nonetheless but he will not go to LSU unless a certain player goes.


Posted by UNCTarHeels
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 12:36 pm to
delete this post. It was accidental
This post was edited on 1/27/09 at 12:37 pm
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 12:55 pm to
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That video was the past summer where he was playing against 15 year old kids as a HS junior to be. His rise is impressive but them high lights were against young kids.


If he was going into his jr year of high school, wasn't he also 15? Or maybe he was a year older?


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He is a good player though nonetheless but he will not go to LSU unless a certain player goes.


I'm guessing Galloway?
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 1:31 pm to
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That video was the past summer where he was playing against 15 year old kids as a HS junior to be. His rise is impressive but them high lights were against young kids.
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If he was going into his jr year of high school, wasn't he also 15? Or maybe he was a year older?



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He is a good player though nonetheless but he will not go to LSU unless a certain player goes.
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I'm guessing Galloway?



No, going into your junior year you should be playing 16 year old AAU or if you are an elite player then you need to play 17 Under but there is no rule on having to playing up if you are an elite player. Also, he played 15Under because his b-day allows him to play younger but it isn't good to play younger, it is like a varsity all district player playing in a JV game or league. Just is too easy.

And yea I would think if Galloway goes to LSU he would too, if he don't then maybe not because Brian really likes USC, Memphis and a few others.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 1:53 pm to
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Every LSU coach has relentlessly "worked " the New Orleans area for the top prospects.


please shut up
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Every LSU coach has relentlessly "worked " the New Orleans area for the top prospects. New Orleasn kids are hell bent on going out of state. The only three New Orleans area LSU playres of note are Jordy Hltberg, Randy Livingston and Duane Spencer ( who originally signed with Georgetwon).

If Trent can reverse the trend it will be great. It won't be because he worked the area harder.
Had to know your BRady arse Kissing Self would appear here defending the old coaches...Please post on the Ark.State Board. You are pathetic and this act is old.
Posted by FastBreakTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/27/09 at 2:06 pm to
“UNC” do you know Williams? You must have an inside scoop.
Why aren’t these 2010’s committing yet?
I did a search and found this clip on WAFB. These don’t look like 15 year olds to me.
LINK

Posted by FastBreakTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
5 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 2:06 pm to
“UNC” do you know Williams? You must have an inside scoop.
Why aren’t these 2010’s committing yet?
I did a search and found this clip on WAFB. These don’t look like 15 year olds to me.
LINK

Posted by Nick Cest Bon
Covington
Member since Jan 2004
388 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 2:57 pm to
St. Aug has a 6'6 7th grader too. He played against my ninth grade team this year. Big ole boy and pretty tough and skilled
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 2:58 pm to
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“UNC” do you know Williams? You must have an inside scoop.
Why aren’t these 2010’s committing yet?
I did a search and found this clip on WAFB. These don’t look like 15 year olds to me


Brian Williams' Rivals Profile

And yes, I know the Williams' family, Brian and coaches personally. I have just recently updated his rivals profile with his favorite schools as of now and his offers. And the clip on the WAFB site is from this season. The one on his Rivals profile is against 15 year olds. He has tremendous hops and is a very good shooter. He is slowly becoming a better player but is playing a 4 at GOHS and is really a 2-guard.

And for the kids not committing, is very early. They are waiting on getting bigger and better offers before signing. Word right now is that if the offers are right Williams and Derenbecker will commit by October to a school. We will see how it all works out because these players in 2010 will increase their stock over the summer.
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4897 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 3:34 pm to
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No, going into your junior year you should be playing 16 year old AAU or if you are an elite player then you need to play 17 Under but there is no rule on having to playing up if you are an elite player. Also, he played 15Under because his b-day allows him to play younger but it isn't good to play younger, it is like a varsity all district player playing in a JV game or league. Just is too easy.


I got it, thanks for the explanation. Hope LSU can land Williams, Galloway and Derenbecker next season. That would be an unbelievable start for TJ.
Posted by Bandits
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2008
3170 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 3:36 pm to
Heard Trent talking at a luncheon last Friday. He has established close ties with all of the big name former LSU players, especially Shaq. I like his style. He said that Martin had to learn that there is no I in team before he could play. He really likes the kid though.
Are there no Baton Rouge kids this year. How does Glen Oaks look?
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 3:42 pm to
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Heard Trent talking at a luncheon last Friday. He has established close ties with all of the big name former LSU players, especially Shaq. I like his style. He said that Martin had to learn that there is no I in team before he could play. He really likes the kid though.
Are there no Baton Rouge kids this year. How does Glen Oaks look?


No there aren't any BR kids this year. 2009 is a bad class overall top to bottom this season.

And Glen Oaks is 24-2 and #1 in the state.
Posted by HSHoopscoach
kenner
Member since Jan 2007
709 posts
Posted on 1/28/09 at 1:46 pm to
here's the article that was in the paper; minus the rankings and pictures.

Note:
For ya boy w/the corrections; I don't nationally rank frosh. nor anyone else. I was quoting the paper.

Note: For ya boy who dissin prospects due to height- they're in 9TH GRADE

and 'lil Bridgewater is BEASTLY

LINK





Fab Five
Posted by Billy Turner January 24, 2009 10:08AM
Categories: Boys Basketball
Five fabulous freshmen from the New Orleans metro area are turning heads nationally.

By Billy Turner
Staff writer
The girls were everywhere, wanting to talk, wanting an autograph. They walked around them with the number of their favorite players marked on their arms with permanent marker that wouldn't come off for days as the team played and won a tournament in Nice, France.
But Javan Felix wanted none of that attention, none of that notoriety. He didn't even like the fact that those girls kept coming around him, giggling as if they knew he who he was.
He was 10 years old.
Things have changed, dramatically.
Felix doesn't mind the attention, doesn't mind the notoriety and surely doesn't mind the girls, he said with a sly grin followed by a robust laugh.
Felix is just one of a fab frosh class in the New Orleans area who is turning heads, gaining national attention and winning on a national level when they come together to play AAU basketball in the summer. Their team, the New Orleans Panthers, finished second AAU national tournament in Orlando
Said Clark Francis of Hoopscoop.com, "We've seen how they've played against the best in the country. They played for the nationals.
"Definitely it goes in cycles, and New Orleans area has some great talent now. It has not been on a national stage lately, but these guys will put it there."
The Fab Frosh arrive
After a summer of playing together, they're playing against each other all over the area. On Dec. 19, Reserve Christian played St. Augustine in the Country Day Classic. In that game, three of the nation's best freshmen played against each other.
Reserve Christians' Ricardo Gathers, a hulking 6 feet 6 ½ inches and 232 pounds, made two baskets in overtime, finishing with 23 points and 14 rebounds, to led the Eagles to a 63-59 win in overtime.
St. Augustine's 5-10 point guard Javon Felix tied the game at 55 in overtime with free throws as part of his 16 points. St. Aug's 6-3 forward London contributed off the bench.
But there is more, all from the Panthers team.
Joel Pichon starts for Holy Cross and is averaging 11.0 as a shooting guard, and guard Malik Morgan is a backup at John Curtis, but he recently came off the bench to score 21 points against Newman.
After last summer's AAU tournaments and clinics and camps across the nation, Hoopscoop.com rated the players like this:
Gathers was rated the third best freshman in the country and the top center. London was rated the fourth best player and the top wing forward. Felix was rated the seven best overall and the top point guard. Pichon wasn't rated in the top 25 overall but he was rated the seventh best 2-guard. Morgan isn't ranked, but Panthers coach Graegg Holmes said he's the best shooter of the five.
The mail has started to flow in with three seasons left to play.
Getting started
Basketball came more natural early to Felix than his teammates, a ball in his hand, a pass to be made was there as long as he can remember. His father, Rodd, played on the 1983 undefeated St. Augustine state champion team with Donald Royal and Avery Johnson as the sixth man then played college basketball at SUNO.
Darn near the moment he had a boy, his son had a ball. "When he was able to sit up, I put a ball in his hand and a hoop in the room at three or four months," Rodd said. "He was able to put it in the hoop," with an assist from Dad, one assumes.
At 3, Javan was playing basketball, on a team. At 7, he was playing AAU.
By 9? "They'd all been on the AAU circuit since they were 9," Rodd Felix said. Since then, they were second nationally in 10-and-under in Springfield, Missouri. Rodd said, "That's when we began to recorgnize that we might have something here." The next year they were seventh in the nation at Cocoa Beach, Fla. The next, 12-and-under, they were fourth nationally at Hampton, Va.. In the 13-and-under, they didn't place. Then came last year.
Along the way, the crew grew.
When the New Orleans Lightning 10-year-olds went to France as part of the Nice Top Kids International Basketball Tournament, Felix and Pichon were on the team. Holmes was the coach.
Later, London came along and has been with the group for four years. He now said he and Javon are like brothers. Holmes is the legal guardian for London who had difficulties at home. Gathers plays with them on occasion, like last summer.
In August, 2008, His East St. John team qualified to go to nationals, but many of the players left the team to go to high school football (the tournament is held in August) and Gathers moved over to play with the Panthers.
"I've had them for four years," Holmes said. "I had them that first summer together and I knew they could be special players, all of them. They are willing to learn and take instruction. It's funny, every tournament we would walk in there and be the underdogs. It's hard for this area to be recognized in basketball. We're known as a football area, but we're trying to do something about that."
Said Rodd Felix: "One of my goals was to get this area to be known for something other than football. We've had great players come along, but not as many and not at the same time."
High school choices
There was never much doubt that Felix was going to St. Aug, with Rodd's roots. But the rest gave a minute of talk to playing together at the same high school, Rodd said.
"They talked about it, but it was kind of impossible," Rodd said. "Malik was already at Curtis (since the fourth grade). Ricardo was out there in Reserve. I knew my son was going to go to St. Aug and had the opportunity to play there and Javon talked him into it. Joel, he wound up at Holy Cross."
"I've known them since they were 9-10 years old," said St. Augustine Coach Clifford Barthe. "Rodd has been known around the school for a while. I went out and watched his son play and after I got the job after Katrina (in 2006). Rodd came to us and talked about his son going here. He started in the seventh grade. "
The stories in the community about where they would wind up were plentiful last year, coaches said


go to link for the rest

Posted by You will Artichokes
Member since May 2006
3482 posts
Posted on 1/28/09 at 6:21 pm to
I heard Bridgewater was recently expelled from Episcopal. Any truth to that rumor?
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