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re: Thanks Greg Robinson...
Posted on 12/13/10 at 3:08 pm to T Ba Doe Tiger
Posted on 12/13/10 at 3:08 pm to T Ba Doe Tiger
I don't get why people are concerned about Greg Robinson's feelings.
The kid chose an out-of-state school despite being pursued by his home state school. And while Auburn had a better 2010 than LSU, Auburn's program is not better than LSU's; it's the other way around. And that's putting aside the fact that Auburn is going to be severely sanctioned during Mr. Robinson's 4 or 5 years on the Plains.
It is one thing for a kid to go away to a better program. Back in the 80s or 90s, plenty of LA kids left the state because LSU was not a good program. It's also one thing for out of state kids to pick LSU over their in-state schools, when LSU is a better program (see, e.g., Patrick Peterson in 2008, choosing LSU over Miami).
You have to remember that Louisiana is a unique place. We have one in-state school. Tulane is not a legitimate option. Florida has multiple schools, Bama has Bama/Auburn, Georgia has Georgia/Georgia Tech, Texas has UT/A&M/Tech/Baylor, shoot even Mississippi has Ole Miss/MSU. Because of this uniqueness, there is a sense that the whole state is invested in LSU.
So when a kid grows up in Louisiana, has family in Louisiana, has his friends in Louisiana, is coveted by the LSU coaching staff with a committable offer and he decides to go away to some shithole college in Alabama, he is going to catch some grief. There is a sense of betrayal. It's perfectly natural and if you want to do that--turn your back on your friends and family and supporters and go play for a rival, I'm sorry but you have to be prepared to get a little grief over it.
Frankly, I think Robinson knows he is not as good as Collins or Faulk and so he went to Auburn to get on the field sooner. Maybe that's a smart move. But he's still going to catch some flak for it.
Anyway, if my theory is correct, he self-selected and we didn't lose much. Either way, he's part of the Auburn Family now, with all of the consequences that emanate therefrom.
The kid chose an out-of-state school despite being pursued by his home state school. And while Auburn had a better 2010 than LSU, Auburn's program is not better than LSU's; it's the other way around. And that's putting aside the fact that Auburn is going to be severely sanctioned during Mr. Robinson's 4 or 5 years on the Plains.
It is one thing for a kid to go away to a better program. Back in the 80s or 90s, plenty of LA kids left the state because LSU was not a good program. It's also one thing for out of state kids to pick LSU over their in-state schools, when LSU is a better program (see, e.g., Patrick Peterson in 2008, choosing LSU over Miami).
You have to remember that Louisiana is a unique place. We have one in-state school. Tulane is not a legitimate option. Florida has multiple schools, Bama has Bama/Auburn, Georgia has Georgia/Georgia Tech, Texas has UT/A&M/Tech/Baylor, shoot even Mississippi has Ole Miss/MSU. Because of this uniqueness, there is a sense that the whole state is invested in LSU.
So when a kid grows up in Louisiana, has family in Louisiana, has his friends in Louisiana, is coveted by the LSU coaching staff with a committable offer and he decides to go away to some shithole college in Alabama, he is going to catch some grief. There is a sense of betrayal. It's perfectly natural and if you want to do that--turn your back on your friends and family and supporters and go play for a rival, I'm sorry but you have to be prepared to get a little grief over it.
Frankly, I think Robinson knows he is not as good as Collins or Faulk and so he went to Auburn to get on the field sooner. Maybe that's a smart move. But he's still going to catch some flak for it.
Anyway, if my theory is correct, he self-selected and we didn't lose much. Either way, he's part of the Auburn Family now, with all of the consequences that emanate therefrom.
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 3:33 pm to Mike Linebacker
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Mike Linebacker
I thought you were better then this.
quote:This rational is shite, from top to bottom. Miami is a storied program. We might have been better at the time, but we weren't better then UF, a state school for Peterson, at the time. You guys shite on a LA kid for leaving the state and then praise the out of state kids for coming here. Laughable.
It's also one thing for out of state kids to pick LSU over their in-state schools, when LSU is a better program (see, e.g., Patrick Peterson in 2008, choosing LSU over Miami).
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It is one thing for a kid to go away to a better program. Back in the 80s or 90s, plenty of LA kids left the state because LSU was not a good program.
What? It's okay if LSU sucks but when LSU is good it's not. How the hell do you rationalize this? I thought "LSU was unique, we only have one state school, and because of that uniqueness, there is a sense that the whole state is invested in LSU." So are we only invested as a state when we are good? And by the way, there are plenty of Louisiana's citizens, that have nothing invested in LSU, absolutely zero.
Bye the way, GR recruitment isn't over. The same guy who has a seven page thread slobbering over all the good intel he has (no offense memphis, just trying to make a point) said this thing isn't over and there are some continuing circumstances going on. However, people tend to ignore that for their "seeing red" mentality they have because how dare some kid choose another school over LSU. Get over yourself. It happens.
Sure, be angry that LSU lost out on a great player; be pissed he chose a rival school. But, some of the idiocy that has scattered this board regarding this kid is above and beyond. Especially when it is rationalized with bullshite excuses such as Louisiana's "uniqueness" and "investment" in the program.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/13/10 at 3:55 pm to Linkovich
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This rational is shite, from top to bottom. Miami is a storied program. We might have been better at the time, but we weren't better then UF, a state school for Peterson, at the time. You guys shite on a LA kid for leaving the state and then praise the out of state kids for coming here. Laughable.
If you grow up in Florida, you tend to be a Canes fan, a Seminole fan or a Gator fan. If you grow up a Canes fan, it is not surprising that you aren't really interested in attending UF. But if the Canes are your team, and another school (that you haven't hated your whole life) offers a better opportunity, that is very rational.
When Peterson chose LSU, Miami had fired Coker in 2006 and was coming off a 5-7 campaign with Shannon. LSU was coming off back-to-back BCS bowl wins and a national championship. So he made a rational decision.
And, BTW, Canes fans were WAY worse on Patrick than anyone has been on Robinson. And Robinson is going to play a rival whereas Miami/LSU rarely play each other. Not saying we should comport ourselves to the behavior of Miami fans, but it happens whenever a kid picks another school, even if he has very good, respectable reasons in doing so.
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What? It's okay if LSU sucks but when LSU is good it's not. How the hell do you rationalize this? I thought "LSU was unique, we only have one state school, and because of that uniqueness, there is a sense that the whole state is invested in LSU." So are we only invested as a state when we are good? And by the way, there are plenty of Louisiana's citizens, that have nothing invested in LSU, absolutely zero.
Two separate points. I didn't say it was OK to not pick LSU when they are no good. My point was that it is more understandable when LSU is no good. Conversely, it is less understandable for someone who is supposed to be one of the top OTs in the country and who is a clear desire of the LSU coaching staff to go play hundreds of miles away at a lesser program in lieu of playing for LSU.
As for being invested in the state, of course you are correct that some people in the state are not invested in LSU. Some downright hate the school. But when you compare the level of investment of the populace in the school to the same at other major college programs, it is not even close.
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Bye the way, GR recruitment isn't over.
It's never over til they sign. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Sure, be angry that LSU lost out on a great player; be pissed he chose a rival school. But, some of the idiocy that has scattered this board regarding this kid is above and beyond.
I haven't read a lot of it; especially this weekend. Too busy. And I'm sure that some people were over the top. But many people are disappointed that a Thibodaux kid choose to go play for Bama's red-headed step child when he was welcomed to LSU with open arms. He did choose a rival and if he is good, he will help that rival for 4 years try to beat our team.
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Especially when it is rationalized with bullshite excuses such as Louisiana's "uniqueness" and "investment" in the program.
We'll obviously agree to disagree here. But what I don't get is, aside from holding out hope that he comes to his senses and switches commitments, why people care so much about the reaction. He's a Louisiana kid that LSU wanted and he went to a rival, lesser program. People aren't going to be thrilled with that decision. I'm sure Greg Robinson is not surprised that people aren't happy with him. Anyway, he made that choice. He'll have to live with it.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 4:02 pm to Mike Linebacker
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why people care so much about the reaction.
Honestly, I don't.
But, I do think it is down right hilarious to read the rant and watch people continually bash Les Miles, Gary Crowton, and Studs. Ranters can't wait for them to be fired. Hell, many despise them, yet the same shmucks come to the recruiting board and vilify a kid for not wanting to play for the "three stooges."
Posted on 12/13/10 at 4:13 pm to Linkovich
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But, I do think it is down right hilarious to read the rant and watch people continually bash Les Miles, Gary Crowton, and Studs. Ranters can't wait for them to be fired. Hell, many despise them, yet the same shmucks come to the recruiting board and vilify a kid for not wanting to play for the "three stooges."
Oh on that we agree. I never understand our fan base's treatment of Miles.
Which reminds me, if you see how irrational we treat a coach who is, what 61-16, why would you not expect that same fan base to go ape shite when a good recruit picks that sanctions-waiting-to-happen program over LSU?
Posted on 12/13/10 at 4:18 pm to Mike Linebacker
quote:Gary should be fired. I don't blame Greg for going to another school. I never blame a kid for anything like that. It is his own choice. He likes AU and that is just the way it is.
But, I do think it is down right hilarious to read the rant and watch people continually bash Les Miles, Gary Crowton, and Studs. Ranters can't wait for them to be fired. Hell, many despise them, yet the same shmucks come to the recruiting board and vilify a kid for not wanting to play for the "three stooges."
Posted on 12/16/10 at 10:56 am to Abadeebadaba
In the spirit of not starting a new thread I am going to ask this question in the most recent G Rob thread.
I follow recruiting but am a bit intimidated about posting on here in fear of being flamed. Anywho, what do you great recruiting gurus feel was the driving factor to Greg committing to Auburn. Was it the commitment of La'el, was it a lack of commitment to his recruiting by our staff, Travon Reed being at Auburn, or Trooper Taylor getting his slimy hands on him?
TIA
I follow recruiting but am a bit intimidated about posting on here in fear of being flamed. Anywho, what do you great recruiting gurus feel was the driving factor to Greg committing to Auburn. Was it the commitment of La'el, was it a lack of commitment to his recruiting by our staff, Travon Reed being at Auburn, or Trooper Taylor getting his slimy hands on him?
TIA
Posted on 12/16/10 at 11:03 am to TheHumanTornado
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driving factor to Greg committing to Auburn.
1. Depth. AU is losing 4 linemen. So I'm sure Auburn sold the frick out of that.
2. Trovon Reed constantly in his ear.
Now, I'm sure Anthony Johnson will be up his arse on the field.
Posted on 12/16/10 at 2:28 pm to Prominentwon
The real person being hurt in all of this is G. Rob....may be time to move on.
Best of luck to him.
Best of luck to him.
Posted on 12/16/10 at 3:04 pm to Abadeebadaba
I agree... I cant understand how grown adults get upset cuz GROB or someone else decided to choose another school than LSU... Its his choice... No need to bash the kid..
And fwiw..don't stop posting cuz of others
And fwiw..don't stop posting cuz of others
Posted on 12/17/10 at 10:16 am to TheHumanTornado
Feb 2nd casino cards are handed out and players are told to go to certain machines to get their payment.
Its shocking though because once you turn your back on LSU its going to be tough to come back to the state and expect to find a job.
Its shocking though because once you turn your back on LSU its going to be tough to come back to the state and expect to find a job.
Posted on 12/17/10 at 10:35 am to Tigers13
i blame popcorn shrimp baskets
Posted on 12/17/10 at 10:35 am to Mudminnow
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Its shocking though because once you turn your back on LSU its going to be tough to come back to the state and expect to find a job.
Really?
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