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Texas recruiting class according to rivals

Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:00 am
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:00 am
Texas already has 20 commmitments and rivals has already rated 16 of those players as 4 star recruits. They might already have the #1 class for 2010 on lockdown
This post was edited on 3/14/09 at 10:01 am
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24151 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:02 am to
Probably not #1 on lockdown yet, but they are a lock for top 5, maybe top 3.

If they land guys like Wilson, Lache, and Jeffcoat then they will have it locked up.
Posted by bjc778
Member since Dec 2006
4482 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:02 am to
Must be nice to stop recuiting in March. Good summer vacation time for Brown and his crew.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:06 am to
it would be insane if UT got a #1 class

just imagine if mack tried to get down and dirty for top prospects who weren't 100% texas 300 days before signing day
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:07 am to
Thats incredible.. good school, lots of talent in state.. AM down ..
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:18 am to
It is amazing but its how Brown recruits. He forces commits early to basically everyone all Texas. If you don't bleed UT blood, he starts to lay off. I guess he can afford to do that in such a talent rich state but its also bit him in the arse with some major recruits.
Posted by sertorius
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:25 am to
I guess it stands to reason that this is an approach that would not win championships in Louisiana?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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422567 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:55 am to
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I guess it stands to reason that this is an approach that would not win championships in Louisiana?

we don't have the #s

that's why i fear les's comments that hinted at him moving to more of this type of recruiting

Texas has a position like USC, where they are by far the #1 team in a vastly populated state (in terms of talent)

USC has some competition, and UCLA may start to chip away. UT has OU in a similar position

however the advantage mack has is that kids literally grow up dreaming of playing for Texas. USC is more of a thing kids want to be a part of, as they became fascinated with the USC hype in middle/high school

i'm not complaining about mack's strategy...it has allowed LSU to get some studs out of Texas
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75859 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:12 am to
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rivals has already rated 16 of those players as 4 star recruits.


Rivals bias.
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:22 am to
I feel dirty saying it, but I have to agree with you on this one. We could have a solid team just sticking with players who bleed P&G but we aren't paying Les the big buck for a solid team. We've got to get some guys from OOS, and Mack's strategy somehow helps us.

Mack might change his tune if UTSA and North Texas ever establish some recruiting. Nah!
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 12:10 pm to
Here's also a thought:

By locking up his class early he does 2 things:

1) He makes kids want to commit early. If they don't commit early, someone else might take their spot and they won't get to play for Texas. This stops them from going on a lot of recruiting visits and possibly thinking about other schools. I don't know what his NSD defection rate is, but I would imagine that it's pretty low.

2) He creates a marketing tool for Texas by filling his class early. He makes Texas seem like a program that everyone wants to be a part of, causing all of the early commits. He also makes Texas seem like a school that knows exactly who they want and goes after them. This makes an offer from Texas seem more valuable than an offer from a school that has 200 scholarship offers out to every 4 and 5 star player who will look at them.

.....Just a thought.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 1:24 pm to
I have to agree, seems like you think before you post. Novel idea...
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 1:34 pm to
Texas will probably have 30 or more 4 stars so others will get their share of 4 stars from texas.
Posted by sclary
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
123 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 1:44 pm to
Every year they have 20 or so recruits from Texas. Nothing out of the ordinary and they do a great job of locking down a top 10 class every year with little or no effort. One of the benefits of being the top school in the top D 1 talent producing state.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

1) He makes kids want to commit early. If they don't commit early, someone else might take their spot and they won't get to play for Texas. This stops them from going on a lot of recruiting visits and possibly thinking about other schools. I don't know what his NSD defection rate is, but I would imagine that it's pretty low.

this can backfire when going for the very top talent. you're not wrong, it's a double-edged sword

they lost shep b/c mack put pressure on shep to commit as a non-QB and OU gets a lot of the top talent in TX b/c kids get turned off to the early high-pressure tactics used by mack.

quote:

2) He creates a marketing tool for Texas by filling his class early. He makes Texas seem like a program that everyone wants to be a part of, causing all of the early commits. He also makes Texas seem like a school that knows exactly who they want and goes after them. This makes an offer from Texas seem more valuable than an offer from a school that has 200 scholarship offers out to every 4 and 5 star player who will look at them.

naw
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

they lost shep b/c mack put pressure on shep to commit as a non-QB and OU gets a lot of the top talent in TX b/c kids get turned off to the early high-pressure tactics used by mack.


The reason they lost Shep was because they had Garret Gilbert. While I may get sodomized for saying this, If I was the head coach of Texas and I had to choose between Gilbert and Shepard, I would have picked Gilbert every time. He fits better into their system and is just as good of a prospect as Shep.

I do agree that it's a double edged sword, just not that it's the reason they lost out on Shep.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

The reason they lost Shep was because they had Garret Gilbert.

they have no problem recruiting 2 QBs in teh same class (RP and colt, for example)
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

they have no problem recruiting 2 QBs in teh same class (RP and colt, for example)


McCoy was a 3 star recruit and RP didn't end up going to Texas.

I know they don't have a problem recruiting multiple big time QB's, but I don't know of any programs who can recruit 2 5* QB's in the same year.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32418 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 4:07 pm to
And yet Mack Brown will continue to underachieve year in and year out with his collection of ridiculous talent. It's unacceptable that the University of Texas has only made one championship game in 10 years.
Posted by Angry LLAMA
the energy capital of the world
Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 4:14 pm to
i feel like their recruiting mirrors their success on the field. always really good, never great. with the collection of players whove walked through those doors, they should have alot than 1 conference championship.

they are ok with really good, not great. shows in recruiting, shows on the field
This post was edited on 3/14/09 at 4:15 pm
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