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re: Texas giving up on Seastrunk/Reed?
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:09 pm to CFBFAN1121
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:09 pm to CFBFAN1121
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Those 3 victories has a average margin of victory of 4 pts. and one victory was the result of a last second desperation TD pass
you mean the one, that if the pass was dropped would have allowed LSU to kick a game winning field goal anyway?
Do you really wanna play that game, how man controversial calls were there in that 1 LSU loss, 6?
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:11 pm to josh336
its obviously desperation when your fallback is to win the game with a 39 yard field goal
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:11 pm to CFBFAN1121
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But when the two teams meet on the field, if LSU wins, they have to fight and claw their way to a victory.
we claw for wins against most non-crappy SEC teams. it's the miles way
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Auburn virtually have their entire team back from last year and they'll be better on offense
why will they be better on offense exactly?
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why will they be better on offense exactly?
It will probably be somewhat better, but still pretty bad in the grand scheme of things.
Quarterback play is already in question, but then you have to take into account that we only have 2, maybe 3, legitimately decent receivers(only one of which has proven to have any "playmaker" ability), and then factor in that our offensive line depth is abysmal.
Not looking good.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:14 pm to ColtsTigers
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SEC fans see the same issues that I see in regards to their team.
That's perfectly fine. But just b/c "a lot of people have the same opinion' dont make it fact. Hell people said Auburn would win the SEC West last year, we see how that turned out.
not trying to pick an argument, only time will tell what's going to happen this year
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why will they be better on offense exactly
B/c we cant be worse than what we were last year on offense
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:18 pm to CFBFAN1121
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B/c we cant be worse than what we were last year on offense
That is what I said preseason of last year. Don't ever buy into that lie. It can get worse.
Although I would be adequately surprised if we were any worse on offense than last year, it certainly is possible.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:20 pm to CFBFAN1121
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B/c we cant be worse than what we were last year on offense
We have that same logic with our defense!
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:21 pm to CFBFAN1121
Whatever man. Reality shows that they aren't that strong at OL, QB, and other spots. You can choose to ignore reality if you'd like.
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:22 pm to Ross
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but then you have to take into account that we only have 2, maybe 3, legitimately decent receivers(only one of which has proven to have any "playmaker" ability), and then factor in that our offensive line depth is abysmal.
this is what i told you before last year. it was more of a worry than the shitty QB situation (esp with a spread. shitty QBs can do well in a spread system...your problem was the spread vs spread option shite with a lack of a QB to run both)
malzhan is a pure spread guy, but he wants to run a deep-passing game. i just don't see how you mix spread with deep passing in a conference with pass rushers. i mean yeah last year he had success at running, but it's for the same reason texas tech did (spread out formation means some running lanes against shitty teams)
i think keeping franklin and recruiting the right guys would lead to more offensive success honestly
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:24 pm to CFBFAN1121
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B/c we cant be worse than what we were last year on offense
worse talent + worse scheme could = worse offense
you had 1 WR worth a shite (even though he had shite talent) and he graduated. your QBs blow. your OL is a question mark (still using the tubberville "all run" OL for a pure spread?)
malzhan is in no way more proven than tony franklin and has, imho, an inferior system
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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his is what i told you before last year. i
Man, I was head deep in the koolaid last year and believed things would fall in a certain place that was just unrealistic in hindsight. I admitted I was wrong, soon after it became apparent that our offense was a dysfunctional mess.
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i think keeping franklin and recruiting the right guys would lead to more offensive success honestly
There was no way to keep Franklin. That hostility between coaches was quite apparent and ended up culminating with the entire staff being fired.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:28 pm to josh336
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you mean the one, that if the pass was dropped would have allowed LSU to kick a game winning field goal anyway?
True, u woulda had a chance for a game winning FG but it wasnt an automatic FG
Look, im not trying to take anything away from LSU/Miles, I have nothing but respect for the team/program, yeah Les Miles is 3-1 against us
i was just showing that LSU's top recruiting classes didnt translate to dominatin Auburn on the field. Have u beaten us? of course. but u haven't dominated us . and we all know that chances are it'll be a clsoe game again this year
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:30 pm to CFBFAN1121
all you're shooting for now is close game moral victories, nice.
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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worse talent + worse scheme could = worse offense
Dude, you've already proven u have no clue when it comes to Malzahn's offense,u said Malzahn's offense is like TTU's which cant be farther from the truth
Like I said, i bet you've never watched Tulsa to know Malzahn's schemes just like you've never been to Auburn but you're convinced it's a hellhole.
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:38 pm to CFBFAN1121
GM's offense looks stylistically nothing like what they run at TTU.
SFP hasn't seen any of Gus's O since his time at Arkansas, I'd guess. During his time at Tulsa it evolved towards a much more traditional approach.
SFP hasn't seen any of Gus's O since his time at Arkansas, I'd guess. During his time at Tulsa it evolved towards a much more traditional approach.
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:44 pm to truthbetold
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SFP hasn't seen any of Gus's O
SFP has no clue when it comes to Gus' schemes, the reason i know he hasnt seen his O at Tulsa is b/c they hardly play on TV. I had to search the net high and low to find game film.
Malzahn's offense is 50/50 run/pass
the reason I think it'll be better than Franklin's is b/c Malzahn brings in his own staff, and the running scheme is downhill running whereas Tony Franklin's run schemes were east/west
Malzahn will take shots down the field which will be good, it will loosen the defense and open running lanes
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:46 pm to Ross
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There was no way to keep Franklin. That hostility between coaches was quite apparent and ended up culminating with the entire staff being fired.
oh i agree
i'm just saying i think franklin's system could work at auburn better than malzhan's
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:47 pm to CFBFAN1121
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you've already proven u have no clue when it comes to Malzahn's offense
not quite
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,u said Malzahn's offense is like TTU's
no i didn't
i said he gets running lanes and runs like they do at TTech...more than a spread option
TTech is a pure spread
Malzhan is a spread who tries to throw deep
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:47 pm to truthbetold
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SFP hasn't seen any of Gus's O since his time at Arkansas
naw i've seen at least 5 tulsa games
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During his time at Tulsa it evolved towards a much more traditional approach.
if throwing deep from 4 WR sets is traditional, then ok
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