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Posted on 5/12/10 at 10:29 pm to PastySkankster
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Why do LSU fans forget when we land a player like Sam Gibson our of Bama?
Because we're limiting our discussion to players in past signing classes from Louisiana who had offers from Bama and LSU and signed with Bama on national signing day.
Bama did not offer Sam Gibson. Therefore, the comparison between the recruitment of Sam Gibson and Bradley Sylve is not a sound comparison.
Disregarding the Sidell Corley and Phelon Jones signings, whom LSU landed in the same signing class when Saban accepted the Bama job, have we landed a player from Alabama who held an Alabama offer during the Saban era?
Williford didn't hold a Bama offer. Dexter Blackmon didn't hold a Bama offer. Gibson did not hold a Bama offer. Am I missing someone? Under Saban and before Saban at Bama, we seemingly signed players out of the Mobile area, the second best recruiting area in Alabama, every signing class.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:02 pm to tuptiger
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the second best recruiting area in Alabama, every signing class
I would say it's the best now. The Birmingham area talent isn't what it was. Solid coaching has been a problem. I would say nearly a fourth of the in-state players on Alabama's roster are from the Mobile area.
Posted on 5/12/10 at 11:03 pm to PastySkankster
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I can't wait for him to get introduced to Loston, Reid, Vinson, Simon, Mathieu,....etc. Bring it.
It won't be anything he wouldn't see on the Alabama practice fields every day.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:14 am to CapstoneGrad06
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It won't be anything he wouldn't see on the Alabama practice fields every day.
Yall have guys named Loston, Reid, Vinson, Simon, and Mathieu too.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:15 am to Colonel Flagg
We're not hurting in the secondary. They may be young, but they have loads of talent.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:23 am to tuptiger
From 2005-2007 we only signed 3 guys from Alabama and none of them ever made it on the field. Maybe the staff doesn't recruit it that hard anymore. There are plenty of LA and TX recruits of equal talent we can land.
The only big Alabama recruit off the top of my head that has come to LSU recently Is Russell. Also AU looks to have a much better recruiting operation than under Tubbs. Maybe they feel it is rather pointless with a state so obsessed with Bama and AU.
The only big Alabama recruit off the top of my head that has come to LSU recently Is Russell. Also AU looks to have a much better recruiting operation than under Tubbs. Maybe they feel it is rather pointless with a state so obsessed with Bama and AU.
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 12:24 am
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:27 am to Colonel Flagg
Bell is also the only one that truly puzzles me as the depth chart would have been thin for him.
In Sylve case we already have a commit from a similar player and the LSU WR depth chart is solid.
Then you have Lacy and Sentimore which had serious grade problems. LSU decided not to get tied up with them. They ended up qualifying, but that is how it goes sometimes.
In Sylve case we already have a commit from a similar player and the LSU WR depth chart is solid.
Then you have Lacy and Sentimore which had serious grade problems. LSU decided not to get tied up with them. They ended up qualifying, but that is how it goes sometimes.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:38 am to Colonel Flagg
Ok, so Alabama took a prized player from LA. It happens every year in every single state in the country. Just deal with it.
Which of you have actually been to Alabama's campus before? It isn't half bad as an outsider visiting. I can only imagine it is terrific if they really try to show it off to an athlete.
As long as we land 90%+ of the top talent out of LA each year then I honestly cannot complain. Alabama is coming off a National Championship and they are coached by easily a top 5 coach in the country.
If someone like UAB took a top player out of LA I would be seriously concerned, but a major program like Bama, UF, UT, USC, etc has tons to offer and it makes sense that eventually you have a player that wants to leave LA for school.
This is a two way street--we have taken top players off the East Coast recently, players that I am sure multiple schools on the East would love to have on their team.
I want Sylve in this class as bad as anyone, but don't get your panties in a wad over it.
Disclaimer: This is not directed towards anyone specifically, rather the overall negative tone I got from reading bits and pieces of this thread.
Which of you have actually been to Alabama's campus before? It isn't half bad as an outsider visiting. I can only imagine it is terrific if they really try to show it off to an athlete.
As long as we land 90%+ of the top talent out of LA each year then I honestly cannot complain. Alabama is coming off a National Championship and they are coached by easily a top 5 coach in the country.
If someone like UAB took a top player out of LA I would be seriously concerned, but a major program like Bama, UF, UT, USC, etc has tons to offer and it makes sense that eventually you have a player that wants to leave LA for school.
This is a two way street--we have taken top players off the East Coast recently, players that I am sure multiple schools on the East would love to have on their team.
I want Sylve in this class as bad as anyone, but don't get your panties in a wad over it.
Disclaimer: This is not directed towards anyone specifically, rather the overall negative tone I got from reading bits and pieces of this thread.
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 12:40 am
Posted on 5/13/10 at 6:01 am to dos crystal
quote:So I guess that you don't want Jarvis Landry to stick to his commitment or Odell Beckham Jr. to come to school here?
however, under 6 ft wr's are pretty easily replaced. not many under 6ft wr's tearing it up pro or college.
Landry is 5 ft 11
Beckham is 5 ft 10
Posted on 5/13/10 at 6:59 am to lynxcat
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Ok, so Alabama took a prized player from LA. It happens every year in every single state in the country. Just deal with it.
Which of you have actually been to Alabama's campus before? It isn't half bad as an outsider visiting. I can only imagine it is terrific if they really try to show it off to an athlete.
As long as we land 90%+ of the top talent out of LA each year then I honestly cannot complain. Alabama is coming off a National Championship and they are coached by easily a top 5 coach in the country.
If someone like UAB took a top player out of LA I would be seriously concerned, but a major program like Bama, UF, UT, USC, etc has tons to offer and it makes sense that eventually you have a player that wants to leave LA for school.
This is a two way street--we have taken top players off the East Coast recently, players that I am sure multiple schools on the East would love to have on their team.
I want Sylve in this class as bad as anyone, but don't get your panties in a wad over it.
I agree with some parts of this but the biggest problem with this commitment, like I said, is it just further signifies the shift in power. You mentioned that it's a two-way street. Not with us and Bama it isn't. There's no way in hell we could go into Alabama and steal a top recruit they wanted at this point in time. Maybe with other east coast schools it's like that, not against Bama.
It's just sad that we've so quickly fallen behind them.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 9:10 am to Colonel Flagg
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I still call bs on the fact Lacy and Sentimore could make legit As in summer school.
Don't know about Sentimore, but Lacy took his summer school classes at LSU.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 10:04 am to CatahoulaTigers
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however, under 6 ft wr's are pretty easily replaced. not many under 6ft wr's tearing it up pro or college.
DeSean Jackson might have something to say about that.
however, under 6 ft wr's are pretty easily replaced. not many under 6ft wr's tearing it up pro or college.
DeSean Jackson might have something to say about that.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 10:38 am to FootballNostradamus
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like I said, is it just further signifies the shift in power.
WTF So Saban gets one player who probably thinks he's gonna be riding the bench behind other WRs and you think Saban has taken over the state? You guys need to get off Saban's dick every now and then to look at the rest of the world. Incase you haven't noticed we have one helluva recruiting class already and it will do nothing but get better.
I wanted Sylve but he was by no means a must have have. Landry is the must have of this class!
Posted on 5/13/10 at 11:50 am to FootballNostradamus
Yall can't forget that The state of Alabama does have AU in it as well. While LSU is THE school to go to in Louisiana.
With the top talent in Alabama if you don't got to UA you go to AU or vice versa. Thus landing the talented players is obviously significantly decreased. While in Louisiana, it's either go to LSU or OOS. Which again obviously makes it easier for other schools to get players to leave the state.
Nothing to worry about for LSU fans. Sure the kid's fast and I'm ecstatic that he'll be coming to Bama if he sticks with his commitment. But it's not like he's an instant impact player.
With the top talent in Alabama if you don't got to UA you go to AU or vice versa. Thus landing the talented players is obviously significantly decreased. While in Louisiana, it's either go to LSU or OOS. Which again obviously makes it easier for other schools to get players to leave the state.
Nothing to worry about for LSU fans. Sure the kid's fast and I'm ecstatic that he'll be coming to Bama if he sticks with his commitment. But it's not like he's an instant impact player.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:08 pm to lynxcat
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It happens every year in every single state in the country
...but the advantage our university shares over almost every other state in the country is that we are the flagship university in a state with great high school football and no competition within our state's borders for the players our state produces.
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If someone like UAB took a top player out of LA I would be seriously concerned, but a major program like Bama, UF, UT, USC, etc has tons to offer and it makes sense that eventually you have a player that wants to leave LA for school.
I agree with this to a point, but in the last three signing classes, we have lost some marquee players within our state to other SEC programs, and judging from the recruiting updates on various websites, it's obvious to me that our program is losing some of its power. Even the players that we do sign from Louisiana within the last two years seem like we have had to fight tooth and nail to get the to sign on the dotted line i.e. Reuben Randle, Jarrett Fobbs, Alfred Blue.
The wall that once seemed impenetrable is becoming less stable, even though we will still land the majority of the players we want in Louisiana.
The problem I have is that I see Bradley Sylve and Trevon Reed as evidence of a growing problem that existed around the LSU program in the 1990s. It's still in its infancy stages right now, but if we have one more mediocre season, and Bama once again returns to the SEC Championship Game, I predict that the flood gates will open.
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Just deal with it.
I'm not going to commit suicide or even get upset about the Bradley Sylve to Bama commitment. I just don't like the growing trend that I see.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:43 pm to CatahoulaTigers
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So I guess that you don't want Jarvis Landry to stick to his commitment or Odell Beckham Jr. to come to school here?
Landry is 5 ft 11
Beckham is 5 ft 10
i didn't say i didn't want silve. I just said under 6 ft receivers are easly replaced. i stand by that.
if landry bolted, it still not the end of the world. i'm not a guy who believes wr's is what great teams are founded on. they need someone to get them the ball. usually, they touch the ball aprx. 5 times a game. Georgia has the best wr in the conference. he helps them but they still struggled with him.
i'm a o-line/d line guy. if your strong in those areas, i think you can find enough skill guy's to make your team good. especially in the south.
when lsu made the turn from decent to great, it was the d-line and o-line. we have always had good skill players.
it's not like james wright, boone, ect. are chopped liver. lsu will replace silve's spot with equal to better talent just like they did with hunter and davis.
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:47 pm to tigerfan1974
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under 6 ft wr's are pretty easily replaced. not many under 6ft wr's tearing it up pro or college
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DeSean Jackson might have something to say about that.
the word "many"?
Posted on 5/13/10 at 12:47 pm to dos crystal
quote:when did this happen?
equal to better talent just like they did with hunter and davis.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 1:00 pm to CatahoulaTigers
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however, under 6 ft wr's are pretty easily replaced. not many under 6ft wr's tearing it up pro or college.
So I guess that you don't want Jarvis Landry to stick to his commitment or Odell Beckham Jr. to come to school here?
Landry is 5 ft 11
Beckham is 5 ft 10
You just made his point for him jackass.
He clearly said they are easily replaced and then named 2 replacements we have!
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