re: Point Guard says LSU is leader

If players leave, I will agree that Trent Johnson ran them off. Does that make you feel better?

I don't know why you insist on lumping all of the Brady criticism into one monolithic block as if everyone had a meeting and consolidated all of our bitching.

I don't think anyone expects Trent Johnson to have NO attrition at LSU, although he has basically had NO attrition at Stanford and Nevada. I don't equate running off players you didn't recruit when you are a new coach building a program to running off players 10 years later.

That said, I don't particularly like coaches running players off. If it happens rarely, I can accept it. If it happens regularly, I can't (not that anyone cares what I will or will not accept).

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Point Guard says LSU is leader

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Magnum Rolle ring a bell




First, Brady didn’t run him off. Magnum got in his head that he should be the next Kevin Durant and wanted to play on the perimeter. Nikita Johnson left LSU for La. Tech and convinced Rolle to follow him.

Second, he has decent stats but likely would not have matched them in the SEC. He may not have started the last two years with the development of Chris Johnson. Yeah, he would have added some depth if he was willing to work on developing the things he was capable of doing. Who know he might be in the NBA today like several LSU frontcourt players of this past decade.




I've got more.
SF 10 Regis Koundjia
(Laurinburg Prep)
Laurinburg, NC 6-6/190
George Washington

Kentrell Gransberry
South Florida
2007-2008 Senior
Position: Center
Height: 6-9
Weight: 270 lbs
Age: 24 (Aug 01, 1985)
Home: Baton Rouge, LA


Ross Neltner Vandy
(Highlands HS)
Fort Thomas, KY 6-8/220

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Again, Brady did not run off any of those players.

Gransberry selfishly placed his own agenda ahead of being a team player. He did not have the guts to compete for playing time with Big Baby, Tyrus, Darnell Lzzare, Tasmin Mitchell, Magnum Rolle and Chris Johnson so he left after one exhibition game. The players who stayed were rewarded with a Final Four, Gransberry toiled in relative obscurity at South Florida where he was a big fish in a small pond.

Neltner was a good player who also elected not to stay and compete and lost out on a Final four experience. He would not have had the same stats at LSU and essentially would have battled Darnell Lazare for playing time.

I suggest you check Regis Koundjia’s stats and tell us how much he developed at GWU.

If you really want to play the transfer game then let’s compare the careers of the outbound players to Brian Beshara, Lamont Roland and Terry Martin who transferred in to LSU.

Quit trashing up this thread.

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The guy this thread is about is on BBass' AAU team.

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He would be the first.

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Point Guard says LSU is leader
If players leave, I will agree that Trent Johnson ran them off. Does that make you feel better?

I don't know why you insist on lumping all of the Brady criticism into one monolithic block as if everyone had a meeting and consolidated all of our bitching.

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I don't need to justify my posts to you or any one else. At least my posts are relevant and have factual basis unlike much of the idiotic things that are stated daily. I don't put you in that category even if I disagree with you on occasion.

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I don't think anyone expects Trent Johnson to have NO attrition at LSU, although he has basically had NO attrition at Stanford and Nevada. I don't equate running off players you didn't recruit when you are a new coach building a program to running off players 10 years later

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I know this will shock your preconceived notion of attrition under Brady, but 17 of the last 23recruits signed by Brady either completed their eligibility at LSU, remain on the team today or left early for the NBA. That is 75% which is outstanding.

It is interesting that you will give a pass to a coach for running off players he did not recruit, yet give no credence to the difficulty created by NCAA sanctions. It was very difficult to be too selective at that point when there had been only one winning season in 8 years. The prograrm Trent Johnson inherited in 2008 was light years ahead of what Brady inherited in 1997.

Players leave for a variety of reasons, usually because the coach does not have as high an opinion of their performance as they do. Most of the time the coach is right.

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It is interesting that you will give a pass to a coach for running off players he did not recruit, yet give no credence to the difficulty created by NCAA sanctions. It was very difficult to be too selective at that point when there had been only one winning season in 8 years. The prograrm Trent Johnson inherited in 2008 was light years ahead of what Brady inherited in 1997.

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This is my point about you. You have an opinion of people who criticize Brady and you attribute a narrow range of thinking to everyone, to the point of telling us what we think. The quote above could not be further from my actual opinions on Brady. But this thread is not about him, which is something that continually pisses me off about you. You are fricking up a nice, positive thread about a top player considering LSU. Yet, you want to call other people negative.

Your schtick is that you claim to be defending Brady, but his name was never brought up in this thread until you brought it up.

Damn, they must not feel good about Knight.

I know an assistant there. I'll try to get in touch and see what is going on. I know they felt great about him earlier though. With Selby looking at Zona and Kansas, I wonder if Knight is a lock to UK now.

So you think UK will get more than one of Knight, Selby, and Lamb? I don't think it will happen. I'll stick with the Knight/Selby, Poole, Leslie prediction.

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is is my point about you. You have an opinion of people who criticize Brady and you attribute a narrow range of thinking to everyone, to the point of telling us what we think

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Wrong. I don't resort to ad hominem attacks against other posters. I simply take apart their arguments with facts and conclusions. Whatever narrow range of thinking others may present is readily obvious, especially when John Brady is concerned.

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But this thread is not about him, which is something that continually pisses me off about you. You are fricking up a nice, positive thread about a top player considering LSU. Yet, you want to call other people negative.

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Once again interesting that you assail me for hijacking a thread when it is very rare that any thread about LSU basketball can go more than 10-15 posts before something sarcastic is thrown at Brady. When have you challenged these posters? That is exactly the genesis of my post that to be consistent if any players leave the team then it should be stated Trent Johnson ran them off.