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re: Paging Vol...Any word on D’Eriq King?

Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:51 am to
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:51 am to
Dude we have Myles Brennan. Why are some of you just writing him off before he even gets a shot to lead this team? He has looked good in the times I've seen him play and I know he can sling the rock and makes good decisions with the ball. He has been behind 2 pretty solid qbs in his time as an underclassmen at LSU. Not many qbs in history would be playing in front of burrow the past 2 seasons. Then, in his true freshman season in which he redshirted, he was behind an entrenched senior returning starter in Danny Etling...who just so happened to make the Patriots roster a couple years ago. Yet, people forget about that...hes been behind a really talented qb in burrow and wasn't ready to play his freshman year physically when we had etling...he is ready now. He hasn't been not playing bc he simply isn't talented enough. He's going to be good and surprise some of you the same way burrow did. Don't sell short the huge strides burrow has made under Brady and his development from his coaching as well. Myles will do the same bc he has the physical and mental tools to be a good qb. Chill out on the king talk like he would automatically just come in and start bc that might not be the case anyway. I like Brennan and can't wait to see what he does next season with the keys to this Bugatti.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 5:01 am
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10900 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:31 am to
Why do idiots keep asking dumb shite like this repeatedly?
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:53 am to
Ok? And who had king played against racking up those marvelous stats? Tulane? Other teams like Tulane? Lol, get outta here with that bullshite. I can tell you for a fact that Brennan has more arm talent than king does. Brennan can throw the ball, period. King had benefitted from playing shitty competition at a program in Houston that had a good system in place for him and more talent than most of the teams they played. There's a reason that king signed with fricking Houston out of high school. He wasn't even recruited to be a qb to big-time programs that wanted him to play other positions. There's a reason Brennan signed with LSU. We are straight lol. Infant wait until Brennan bursts into the scene next year and all of the ignorant people out there, some of our fans included, won't know what hit them. He's been groomed in this system by the best coaches in the business and has learned behind burrow, one of the best qbs to ever do it in college. He is going to be a terror for the next 2 seasons with his arm talent and the abundance of talent he will have around him. very excite!
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 4:56 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:14 am to
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Myles Brennan is not better than King lol. The guy accounted for 50 total TD’s (36passing 14rushing) to just 6 picks as a Junior and completed 64% of his passes.



It's amazing how people can make assumptions based on something they know nothing about.

Brennan is tailor-made for this offense. He broke all the MS state passing records. King is an athlete playing QB. Every time he's gone up against a good defense he's struggled to throw the football, and it's very rare for him to play any defense that's worth a crap. He's simply not a good fit for our offense at all.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7346 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:11 am to
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Brennan is tailor-made for this offense. He broke all the MS state passing records



If this is what you want to hang your hat on then King threw 126 TD's w/only 16 picks against 5A Texas competition. The point is HS stats don't mean shite in D1 ball. Everybody was good in high school. Look i'm not saying Brennan will or wont be good in this offense but imo he has looked pretty uncomfortable in the pocket the times I have watched him. He just seems timid and kind of scared to stay in there and take a lick and gets rid of the ball prematurely.

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King is an athlete playing QB


Athletes don't throw 36TD's and 3000k yds in a year by accident. He can sling it as well.

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Every time he's gone up against a good defense he's struggled to throw the football,


And in those 2-3 games he had shitty o-line play. Go look at his Passer Rating and QBR in those games. Just going off completion % is a shitty observation. You give him time and he can pick you apart.

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He's simply not a good fit for our offense at all.


He's a great fit for any spread type of offense
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1757 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:00 am to
Lets Give Brady a whole offseason with Brennan like he had with Jeaux, and then we can all chime in on whats best for this team, I think Brennan will be fine and the staff knows it already, don't be shocked if we're having another great season next year, when we took Jeaux, we knew McMillan & Narcisse wasn't gonna cut it for this team, nothing against King either, He's a good one, im js let's give Brennan that offseason he deserves #trustthestaff
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 11:02 am
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:28 am to
This offense requires a better passer than King. His legs would be great to have but he’s only an average passing quarterback.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57699 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:29 am to
The only QB we would make room for this cycle is DJU
Posted by mkemp0113
Member since Dec 2007
1200 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:43 am to
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Myles Brennan is not better than King lol. The guy accounted for 50 total TD’s (36passing 14rushing) to just 6 picks as a Junior and completed 64% of his passes.


First of all, you really can't say for certain that King is better considering you haven't seen Myles play any meaningful time behind Joe. Secondly, King quit 4 games into the season when it wasn't going his way. He doesn't interest me at all.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:03 pm to
He is a quitter and a low character kid. Must pass on him. I like our tow freshmen and Parish has skills.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118822 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:19 pm to
What the hell is the fascination with D'Eriq King? The dude is less accurate than Bo Nix and D'Eriq doesn't face SEC defenses.

This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12405 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:39 pm to
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King quit 4 games into the season when it wasn't going his way.


I don't think this is what happened. From what I understand, Holgorsen actually recommended it, or it was a joint decision to basically tank the season. I'm not sure though.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:49 pm to
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Everybody was good in high school


Except not everybody is breaking state records, like Brennan.

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If this is what you want to hang your hat on then King threw 126 TD's w/only 16 picks against 5A Texas competition.


Texas high school ball is a different breed, Brennan wasn't some product of a system. Look a the stats of guys before and after him at the school he went to - they did not come close.

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Athletes don't throw 36TD's and 3000k yds in a year by accident. He can sling it as well.



Sure they can, there's PLENTY of cases of great college QBs who could never hack it in the NFL because of multiple reasons - system they are in, very talented compared to their competition, etc etc etc.

Again, look at the specific games King has (Very rarely) had to play a defense with a pulse, his passing numbers are never any good. This is the case of a guy in the right system and playing A LOT of bad competition.

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And in those 2-3 games he had shitty o-line play. Go look at his Passer Rating and QBR in those games. Just going off completion % is a shitty observation. You give him time and he can pick you apart.



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He's a great fit for any spread type of offense



IT's crystal clear you either:

A. Have not watched any film on King or
B. Do not pay attention to our offense at all

First off, again, the dude just LOOKS like a great athlete put at QB when you watch the film. He isn't making complicated throws, he is rarely throwing anything resembling an NFL route tree. He chucks the ball a lot, he is rarely even asked to make throws into tight coverages. This is absolutely nothing like our offense. He's being put in the best possible situation and doing well in that, but there's a reason he's not throwing outside the hashes almost ever. He's not throwing over the middle very often. He's limited as a passer and that has been exposed when he goes against a defense with a pulse. I've watched plenty of film on the guy to know there's no way he could work in our offense without us switching to a much heavier run based system and remove about half our route tree because you cant trust him to throw it compared to someone with an accurate strong-enough arm.

King is a great fit for someone like Rich Rod's offense at Ole Miss, or some other team who likes to run the QB a bit and not throw it complicated at all. Either way in the SEC he'd be super limited as a passer. This isn't Tulsa, East Carolina, Temple and Tulane he's going against each week.

To say someone is a fit for "any spread offense" is a gross over-simplification of the many spread offenses out there.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:53 pm to
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I don't think this is what happened. From what I understand, Holgorsen actually recommended it, or it was a joint decision to basically tank the season. I'm not sure though.



Holgorson would never have suggested that. He knows if he redshirted he would transfer out, why else would he stay there and redshirt? Makes no sense.

After he made his decision Holgs tried to damage control by saying he was planning to stay there and they talked about it, absolutely not the case. He was going to leave the moment he decided to redshirt.
Posted by PeePeeMan2
Piss
Member since Sep 2019
4 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:55 pm to
There’s a mutual interest between LSU and King, but LSU doesn’t want to use a scholarship on a guy they’d have for one year when they’re basically able to cherry pick recruits.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:58 pm to
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There’s a mutual interest between LSU and King, but LSU doesn’t want to use a scholarship on a guy they’d have for one year when they’re basically able to cherry pick recruits.



I highly doubt there is any serious interest, we simply have no room, we are signing the full 25 this class and would be shocked if we didn't. We would have to cut the class down to 24 just to even have room for a transfer and supposedly we maybe not even be able to take a grad transfer because Alexander left school and flunked out.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:59 pm to
Not only that but he doesn’t fit this system
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:12 pm to
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How is an inaccurate passer that completes less than 60% of his passes gonna fare in this offense?



Burrow was < 60% before Brady showed up.
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Lets Give Brady a whole offseason with Brennan like he had with Jeaux,


You're delusional. Brady had a whole offseason coaching up the wide receivers. While QB coach, OC, and LSU play-caller, Steve Ensminger, coached up Joe Burrow from average Joe QB in season one to Heisman QB Joe in season two.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7661 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:26 pm to
Lmfao come on bruh he played against shite competition at Stanislaus. HS does not matter. And didn’’t King play big 5A ball in Texas. Doesn’t fit our offense lol!
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 3:29 pm
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