re: OG Xavier Hill just decommitted from Bama

No clue. They always find a freaking loophole through it seems like

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Apparently he was number 2 on there offensive line board at guard behind Justin Rogers. Think they wanted to keep him. We should go after him

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I disagree.

Firstly, I'm thinking he would be behind many. I don't see him being to beat out the likes of Kardell in the future and some of the projections of the guy(s) we're targeting next year. He's pretty good, don't get me wrong, but the likelyhood would be pretty good depth.

Secondly, with needs + spots + what is out there that we covet, there's no room. If we miss on a couple, then there was room. But we can't afford to push one of those coveted away for depth at OG.

Thirdly, MSU probable with Luke and Ole Miss going to try to get him also. Never get in the middle of a cripple fight.

Saban has always been worried about LSU and it's recruiting. He knows what LSU is capable of bc he's coached here. LSU scared saban whether you believe it or not. That's why he tries to get recruits that we are after bc it not only helps him win games at bama, it fricks with LSUs recruiting. He knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it.

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There's a reason saban targeted Louisiana kids from the beginning, to keep them from LSU.

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Or maybe it's because they are good, and he wants good players at Bama

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Well, here’s the good news: Bama sits at 22 commits after rye definitely. Unless they process another 5 commits - all of which are studs btw - they can’t take too many more since they SHOULD be hard capped at 25 this year due to taking 27 last year . . . . right?

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This Bama poster said they can take 27

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The two links below are near the top of the 1st post in the Bama board recruiting thread. Signing/Counter Limits -- Last segment: 15.5.6.4 Exceptions. 15.5.6.4.1 Voluntary Withdrawal. [FBS/FCS] An institution may replace a counter who voluntarily withdraws from the football team by providing the financial aid to another student who already has enrolled in the institution and is a member of the football squad. For this replacement to occur, the counter must withdraw prior to the first day of classes or before the first game of the season, whichever is earlier, and provide the institution with a signed statement releasing the institution from its obligation to provide institutional financial aid and verifying the voluntary nature of the withdrawal. The institution may immediately (beginning with the fall term) award the financial aid to a student-athlete who has been a member of the team for at least one academic year and has not previously received athletically related financial aid. A student-athlete who has not been a member of the team for at least one academic year may not receive the financial aid during the fall term, but may receive it in a following term (e.g., spring semester, winter quarter). (Revised: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05) How Bama can sign 27 in the 2020 cycle: Bama took 27 in the 2019 cycle including Kaho. However, 2018 late addition QB Layne Hatcher wasn't on a scholarship and 2018 non-qualifier Jordan Davis didn't sign an NLI. So they didn't count toward any signing or counter limits, resulting in two unused 2018-19 signing and initial counter spots that two 2019-class early enrollees could be counted against. Also, 2019-class early enrollees Paul Tyson and Will Reichard didn't sign NLIs. It appears that was done so they could receive scholarships as replacements (under the voluntary withdrawal exception rule -- NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.4.1) for Vandarious Cowan and Keith Holcombe, who withdrew from the team before the 2018 fall term. Per that rule, they would count toward the 85 total counters limit, but not the annual 25 signings and 25 initial counters limits. It also appears that Bama was able to use the voluntary withdrawal exception rule to give someone in the 2018 class (e.g., Michael Parker) a replacement scholarship for Mekhi Brown, who withdrew in 2017. If so, it wouldn't have counted toward 2018's annual limits (only the 85 limit) and would've left one more unused 2018 spot that a 2019 early enrollee could count against. The net result of the 2019-cycle backcounting enabled by the above would result in Bama having three unused 2019 signing and initial counter spots available for backcounting three 2020 early enrollees. But assuming grad-transfer commit Landon Dickerson enrolls, he'll use one of those three 2019 spots, leaving two. Bottom line: I think Bama can sign 27 (25 + 2 backcounted early enrollees) without requiring any gray shirting. This post was edited on 7/20 at 11:25 am



Then these...

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The voluntary withdrawal exception rule doesn't simply give you a replacement scholarship (that only counts toward the 85 limit) for every outbound transfer that you can then immediately provide to any new incoming recruit or transfer. It appears thar the replacement player has to be enrolled without a scholarship and be a member of the team before he can receive a voluntary withdrawl replacement scholarship; i.e., he has to be a walk-on first. Also, if an incoming player has already signed an NLI or scholarship agreement, he will count against the annual signings limit for the academic year in which he initially receives financial aid. That's why Tyson did not sign an NLI or aid agreement prior to enrolling. Instead he practiced with the team in December, probably paid his own way as a walk-on for the very short miniterm that's during the break between the fall and spring semesters, and then got the replacement scholarship for the regular full spring semester. Reichard also didn't sign, but he enrolled in January, so he probably paid his way as a walk-on for the short spring-1 term and then got the replacement scholarship for the spring-2 term. Bama offers some courses that way. A replacement player (e.g., 2018 Michael Parker in the 2018 class) could also establish his status as a walkon quickly and cheaply by paying his own way for a short summer-1 or summer-2 miniterm. It's also important to understand that the two guys Tyson and Reichard replaced, voluntarily withdrew from the team before the prior fall term classes and playing season started. Per the rule, Tyson and Reichard could receive replacement scholarships after that fall term without having been on the team as a walk-on for a full year. This post was edited on 7/20 at 4:07 pm

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if Bama wants someone, they GOT them 9/10 times.

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We comin

And so does Woodward when it comes to the Crimson one:).

He doesn't....

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I'm thinking he would be behind many.

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What exactly do you see that makes you believe this?

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I don't see him being to beat out the likes of Kardell in the future

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He may not be as good as Kardell, but Kardell is an exceptional player. You never know how good a player really is until they get on campus.

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the likelyhood would be pretty good depth.

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At this point I doubt O is recruiting players to come in and be back-ups. If he's offering I'd tend to believe he thinks the player can come in and compete for a starting position.