re: O will consistently get top 10 recruiting classes

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False, we're 14th now on 247

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What are you even doing on the recruiting board if you don’t follow recruiting?

is he really trying to argue the selling point of O was not recruiting?

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What was O's selling point then if not recruiting?

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My point is setting arbitrary goals for class rankings as a determination of recruiting ability is dumb and that nobody other than Saban recruited at a higher level than Miles over his last 4 classes. I never heard anyone say that recruiting rankings would go up with Orgeron. I mean, maybe there are some dipshit, blind CheeriO's on the rant that did, but I didn't ever hear anyone credible say this. I heard that there shouldn't be much, if any, of a drop off in recruiting with Orgeron.

The jury is obviously still out, but you guys are setting unrealistic expectations based on fallible ranking services. There simply isn't the exact correlation between recruiting rankings and team success as you guys want there to be.

Since 2010, LSU's average class ranking is the fourth best in the country, but our average final AP ranking is over 14. USC's been the 5th best in recruiting rankings over that same time span and have also averaged 14th in the final rankings. Georgia has finished with the 7th best recruiting ranking and their average finish in the AP is 24. Texas has averaged a top 10 recruiting class and their average end of year ranking is 50.

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I get it you love orgeron

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I don't love him or hate him. I'm reserving judgment. His recruiting strategy seems different from Miles, but it's possible that it's just they way this particular year setup, or it's possible that it's a completely different tact. Either way, you can't make a final determination of the class' quality based on 247 composite rankings, and anyone who claims they can has a different agenda.

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True or false?

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Tough question. I don't think Eaux will take a high number of highly ranked players at one position just to do good in recruiting rankings.

I think we will see more balanced classes from now on. A team needs depth at EVERY position and I think Coach Eaux fully realizes this. Especially after the damn field and extra point kickers this year.

Coaching ability is undoubtedly a factor to a degree, for sure.

However, Alabama has had the last what is it now, 8? 9? #1 recruiting classes and they’re head and shoulders above the rest of the nation in on-the-field-success. Conversely, bottom tier recruiting teams like Idaho and UTEP aren’t exactly playing for titles.

I appreciate the work you put into your post, and I mean no disrespect but it reads like a carefully disguised moving-of-the-goal-posts as far as expectations for Orgeron and recruiting go. I don’t want to hear that there’s no difference between the #1 and #10 class, that’s just false.

O was hired to recruit. He needs to bring recruits to BR. Plain and simple.

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our ranking will be more tied to in state rankings now, since we are going to really have to take more if our own, with jimbo at a&m now... Texas recruits will be harder to come by, and we usually get a good bump bc of the guys we get from there

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one year ago we didn't sign a single recruit from texas. our 3 main states (outside of La.) have been florida, texas and Georgia. unfortunately, all three states have better recruiters now than before. this kind of stuff happens all the time and it does affect recruiting. and, every time La. has a banner crop of guys, the other big programs siphon off more. in order to compete for championships, LSU has to win recruiting battles in those 4 states regardless of who we are competing against. no matter what, some La guys are going OOS; it's normal. I also think we have to continue to expand our recruiting regions and push more in Ms, Alabama, Tennessee (have done so lately) and the Carolinas with the occasional player from the Midwest.

Judge a class 2-3 years from signing day

Clemson plays in an extremely weak and overrated ACC. They lost to Syracuse.

Clemson would be middle-of-the-Road SEC team.

By those rankings, they still ‘out-talent’ almost every team in their conference save Florida State who lost their starting QB early on and started a 110 pound kid for the rest of the season.

Yes, Clemson did bear Alabama in the title game last year (and I’m damn glad for it) but Alabama (like any SEC team) plays 4 opponents per year that could win any other conference. That kind of beating takes a toll on a team. Clemson had 1, maybe 2 big games to win a year, that’s different than 5-6 big games the winnner of the SEC has to go through.

Bottom line is that #10 recruiting classes and thin lines aren’t going to get it done in the SEC.

Not with his 3-star philosophy. Look at our ranking right now. We only have a few more spots to fill and we're, what, 15th-ish?

There are a lot of schools behind us who have more holes to fill than us.

Having said this, if we get Surtain and Marshall, we should be ok this year but even with those two kids, top 10 will be hard to get, imo. just too many 3-stars in the class.

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Please keep making excuses for your idol Ed Orgeron you only help further my point

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You keep making up bullshite and lies and I will continue to use fact to excuse your idiocy.