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NCAA legality question

Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:32 am
Its clear that if a booster said to a 5* player "come to LSU and I'll give you 100K."

But...

What if a booster said to a 2* or 3*, "walk on and I'll pay your tuition." Essentially it gives a school another scholarship for a guy that may be raw and have a big upside. Would this be against the rules? What if it wasn't a booster... what if it was a very rich 2nd cousin that supported LSU? All it is a family member helping with tuition.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:35 am to
if you have to ask......
Posted by LSUTIGER#1fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
1230 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:36 am to
Since your looking to pay for someone's tuition you wanna pay mine next year?
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
9433 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Since your looking to pay for someone's tuition you wanna pay mine next year?


Are you worth a frick a football? It was just a question
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:38 am to
Your username and the thread go perfect together
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Random LSU Hero


you bored today?
Posted by TXTIGER2
Texas
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:53 am to
quote:

UTEP Fan


Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

What if a booster said to a 2* or 3*, "walk on and I'll pay your tuition." Essentially it gives a school another scholarship for a guy that may be raw and have a big upside. Would this be against the rules? What if it wasn't a booster... what if it was a very rich 2nd cousin that supported LSU? All it is a family member helping with tuition.

Under most circumstances it would be illegal. Booster is a really broad term and includes a lot more people than most think. To give benefits like this you have to have a strong relationship with the prospect, e.g. like providing support for him and his family, prior to the 9th(?) grade or be a family member. While I don't know for sure, family is usually considered immediate family--2nd cousin probably wouldn't cut it.
Posted by recstar7
Bahamas
Member since Sep 2011
1094 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:49 pm to
Look at Bama.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68529 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:50 pm to
I think you have to had a prior relationship. A coach can pay his sons tuition. A coach can also have his son on scholarship. Not sure about something like Frank and speedy. I'm sure Frank knew speedy before the 9th grade or before Frank was coach at LSU. But not sure he can provide anything. Like give them gas money to come to an lsu game.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3526 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:35 pm to
I have no idea why anyone would even bother following the rules these days. As long as you are discrete, or at least make a half-hearted attempt to cover your tracks, you can pretty much get away with anything.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17315 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 2:22 pm to
By the letter if the rules, fans can't even tweet prospects, because that's considered boosters recruiting.

If this were allowed every SEC program would have a lot of very generous uncles. However, everything is subjective with the NCAA. If the kid becomes a first rounder, they're going to come asking questions. If he is a practice squad walk on, and you have a decent story for how you know him, no one is gonna care.
Posted by Deltatiger
hernando, ms
Member since Aug 2005
584 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 2:47 pm to
I know w/o a doubt it happens. Friend's younger bro was a walk on at UM but never paid a dime for tuition out of their own pocket. like earlier post said, it's hard to track unless people involved are stupid...especially for a 2* that isn't offered scholarships by many or any schools.
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6092 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 3:58 pm to
Here is my question: Let's say that I have Eleventy Billion Dollars and I go up to Mr. 5 Star Athlete and say "Listen son, I can't give you any money right now, that would be an NCAA violation, but upon your graduation from this institution, I will transfer $400k into your bank account. That's 100k a year before you even get to the NFL. There can be no paper trail, so I can't put it in writing. What do you say?".

What is to stop this? Can the NCAA do anything about it since the money changes hands after their eligibility is complete?

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