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re: Name the Les Miles "sleeper" recruits?
Posted on 7/24/09 at 3:59 pm to HOUbengal
Posted on 7/24/09 at 3:59 pm to HOUbengal
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You shouldnt have asked this question...it doesnt apply to LSU...we dont recruit sleepers...
What would you call Dexter Blackmon? Scout doesn't even have a picture of the kid.
Blackmon
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 4:04 pm
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:03 pm to NorfolkVATiger
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What would you call Dexter Blackmon?
Well...we are over half a year from signing day...He could have 20 offers by then. For right now ill say he's a damn fine Defensive Lineman who dominated in the LSU camp and did very well in the others.
You dont think he's gonna be at least a 3-star by early next year?
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:06 pm to HOUbengal
A guy with only an offer from Troy at the time he commits is a sleeper.
If he ends up a 4-star by the end of the year, LSU still stole a sleeper because they found him when nobody was talking about him and nobody was offering him.
If he ends up a 4-star by the end of the year, LSU still stole a sleeper because they found him when nobody was talking about him and nobody was offering him.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:14 pm to NorfolkVATiger
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A guy with only an offer from Troy at the time he commits is a sleeper.
He comes from a small town school with not a very good record. Just because LSU is the first on the scene and "discovers" a great talent...doesnt make him a sleeper in my mind. If no one else offers him and LSU is really the only one who considers him a talent, then yes, Id agree he's a sleeper.
I think we are just arguing semantics. Discovering someone before others do...or sleeper? You may be right in calling him a sleeper at this time..but I think it's too early.
Now if the guy was on a big time high school, with good film available...playing in championships...and LSU was the only one on the scene..then ya...big sleeper.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:19 pm to HOUbengal
Yep, I think we mean a little bit different things when we say "sleeper". Ain't no thing.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:56 pm to HOUbengal
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.then how many real sleepers are you gonna have in a program that is consistantly in the top 5 recruiting wise? I guess none.
you'll get some. that's kind of the point
it's rare to have a top recruiting program get a bunch of sleeper-types, which is why this thread was made, i believe
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:57 pm to HOUbengal
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Discovering someone before others do...or sleeper?
at this stage in the process, discovering and offering a commitable offer to a kid that nobody else has really recruited is a sleeper recruit
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Deangelo Peterson is a borderline sleeper. He blew up at Florida's FNL camp but other than that no one really knew a whole bunch about him. Also his HS teammate Lavar Edwards could also be considered a sleeper. If I'm not mistaken they were both originally from New Orleans, got lost in the shuffle of Katrina and moved around with Desire St Academy.
But both of those are borderline. I think a real sleeper was Jermaine Cunningham from Florida. He was another linebacker from Stone Mountain Stephenson that graduated with Riley, Sheppard and Marcus Ball, who were all more highly thought of than Cunningham. Look how that worked out.
But both of those are borderline. I think a real sleeper was Jermaine Cunningham from Florida. He was another linebacker from Stone Mountain Stephenson that graduated with Riley, Sheppard and Marcus Ball, who were all more highly thought of than Cunningham. Look how that worked out.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:06 pm to ProjectP2294
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If I'm not mistaken they were both originally from New Orleans, got lost in the shuffle of Katrina and moved around with Desire St Academy.
i believe this is correct and was discussed in the main commitment thread. i'd agree somewhat with them being sleepers, but Katrina is kind of a real excuse as to why these kids weren't evaluated.
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He was another linebacker from Stone Mountain Stephenson that graduated with Riley, Sheppard and Marcus Ball, who were all more highly thought of than Cunningham. Look how that worked out.
good example of another school. i mean people are saying riley/sheppard are sleepers, so a lesser-known, lesser-recruited guy has to be one
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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good example of another school. i mean people are saying riley/sheppard are sleepers, so a lesser-known, lesser-recruited guy has to be one
I was wrong no how highly thought of he was, but I remember LSU not going after him very hard despite recruiting two of his teammates
LINK
ETA: but that Rivals ranking is from the last update they did for that year, so leading up to that he may not have been ranked so highly.
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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at this stage in the process, discovering and offering a commitable offer to a kid that nobody else has really recruited is a sleeper recruit
I can agree and understand that point. But if after the kid gets some more exposure (mostly thru camps i guess..since he says he's still open to other schools) and his senior year...and then gets offers from the likes of Bama, AU, Tenn, and others...is he still a sleeper going into the fall of 2010?
Anyhow...I guess i agree he's a sleeper at this very moment. LSU is first on the spot for this kid.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:19 pm to LSUQ
micheal brockers from last year recruiting class sleeper D-END might turn into another tyson jackson
Posted on 7/25/09 at 5:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's rare to have a top recruiting program get a bunch of sleeper-types, which is why this thread was made, i believe
Yes.
Curious to see how they pan out the next couple of years. I think it's a good thing that our coaches trust their own evaluations instead of just following the herd...I'll feel better when several of these kids blossom into solid players (or even stars) and validate the coaches' evaluations.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 6:11 am to mrgreen225
quote:Brockers was not a sleeper DE, he was a 4-star on both major recruiting sites.
micheal brockers from last year recruiting class sleeper D-END might turn into another tyson jackson
4* on Scout
4* on Rivals
Posted on 7/25/09 at 7:05 am to tigerjake
One sleeper I haven't seen mentioned is Stevan Ridley. He was virtually unknown when offered by LSU, and other than Ole Miss I think he had very few offers. If I remember right he decommitted from Ole Miss after LSU offered him.
Later in the year his stock rose but he might qualify as a sleeper, and he's looked good in his limited time on the field so far.
Later in the year his stock rose but he might qualify as a sleeper, and he's looked good in his limited time on the field so far.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 7:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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at this stage in the process, discovering and offering a commitable offer to a kid that nobody else has really recruited is a sleeper recruit
+1 Wonder if the Alabama reps for Rivals and Scout will be pulling for this kid?
Posted on 7/26/09 at 3:52 pm to tigerjake
for yo info yes he was a fourstar on both sites but he was also rated the 19th ranked d-end in the country on rivals and he had a nice lists of offers but wasn't talked about dat much by recruiting analysts 
Posted on 7/26/09 at 7:05 pm to ProjectP2294
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I was wrong no how highly thought of he was, but I remember LSU not going after him very hard despite recruiting two of his teammates
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ETA: but that Rivals ranking is from the last update they did for that year, so leading up to that he may not have been ranked so highly.
Check the updates on your link. There were a bunch of updates on him and he was in the 250 as early as the Summer. Definitely not a sleeper.
Posted on 7/26/09 at 7:14 pm to ProjectP2294
Peterson blew up at the Florida camp after her had blown up at the LSU camp and had accepted an offer from LSU. At the time of the commitment, he was an unknown. It remains to be seen what his contribution will be.
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