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re: My Grade for this Class (Kinda Long but I Think it's Decent haha)
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:14 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:14 pm to FootballNostradamus
I guess you subscribe to the LSU recruits itself. It's not true. This coaching staff could have fricked this class up and did things worthy of a c ranking. Instead they locked down the state and landed three of the highest rated instate guys at their position in the last decade. They deserve credit for that. I trust our coaches have a better grasp of our needs than you do. We were in a position to be selective in which LB's we went after this year. I can appreciate that. I understand you are upset we didn't land CJ and Thompson.
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Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:18 pm to tigahfromtheham
Nostradamus.... Do you think we missed on Ethan Hutson the #1 center in America according to the experts, considering he
played ball 45 minutes from campus?
played ball 45 minutes from campus?
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:21 pm to FootballNostradamus
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FootballNostradamus
really, really dumb...as in football nostradumbus. our coaches did a spectacular job keeping together a class that essentially was done two months ago. the fact that other coaches and programs did just as well and better is just the way it played out. so freakn' what? we filled needs across the board and brought in instant impact players. go back to sleep.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:25 pm to FootballNostradamus
First of all, the overall tone of your article is negative. Did you notice that LSU signed a consensus Top TEN recruiting class?
Your coaching grade is way off: C+/B-. Slightly above average? Our coaches locked down the state of LA, filled every need except LB, and matched the recruiting of the best of the best. At least an A grade...with minor marks for not signing a MLB.
This is an excellent class with nationally recognized talent and on par with the nations best. Great job here by the coaching staff.
I just don't see how you can be all negatiger about this class.
Your coaching grade is way off: C+/B-. Slightly above average? Our coaches locked down the state of LA, filled every need except LB, and matched the recruiting of the best of the best. At least an A grade...with minor marks for not signing a MLB.
This is an excellent class with nationally recognized talent and on par with the nations best. Great job here by the coaching staff.
I just don't see how you can be all negatiger about this class.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:28 pm to FootballNostradamus
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FootballNostradamus
i see what you are getting at here, i really do, BUT, the thing i disagree with is the coaches grade, it took A LOT from the coaches to not let the in state talent we had this year go to the state of Alabama. sure we lost a couple of em that way, but we kept the ones that were the best and that is what matters. Saban and Chizik would have given their left nuts for Landry, Freak, or Collins, its very impressive that the coaches kept that talent in state imo
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:33 pm to OBUDan
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Miami, FL to Clemson = 761 miles
Tampa, FL to Clemson = 544 miles
Miami, FL to Baton Rouge = 917 miles
Tampa, FL to Baton Rouge = 713 Miles
Regional... Clemson is still East Coast... closer to home... and that's probably the biggest factor in 80% of all decisions.
We'll have to agree to disagree here. LSU has signed as many if not more players from Florida than Clemson has recently.
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Kendall Thompson wasn't as realistic as all the people on here made him out to be. It was a pipe dream all along and this whole myth that came about with him was kinda silly...
Not true
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Yet you're openly asking why we didn't pull Tony Steward, Stephone Anthony and CJ Johnson?
No more asking why we weren't even remotely in the running for the two former and a number of other LBs.
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Time will tell, but he's also never been at a school that's had a draw like LSU does. A&M gets the scraps in Texas that Texas/OU/LSU don't pillage... it's usually a 4th choice for a lot of kids.
Tulsa... leftovers. Louisville... leftovers.
I'm willing to see what he can do with a brand like LSU attached.
I can agree with this to an extent. He'll definitely be better at LSU. However, there are certain recruiters who are known to be studs regardless of where they are. Could Kragthorpe be a good recruiter at LSU? Absolutely. Is he gonna be an ace like Dabo, Jimbo, Smart, Saban, etc? No
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:37 pm to FootballNostradamus
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We'll have to agree to disagree here. LSU has signed as many if not more players from Florida than Clemson has recently.
Since 2008:
Clemson - 15
LSU - 6
but you were close.
ETA: Going back to 2002 LSU has 17, Clemson 36
This post was edited on 2/3/11 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:38 pm to jrodLSUke
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First of all, the overall tone of your article is negative. Did you notice that LSU signed a consensus Top TEN recruiting class?
Your coaching grade is way off: C+/B-. Slightly above average? Our coaches locked down the state of LA, filled every need except LB, and matched the recruiting of the best of the best. At least an A grade...with minor marks for not signing a MLB.
This is an excellent class with nationally recognized talent and on par with the nations best. Great job here by the coaching staff.
I just don't see how you can be all negatiger about this class.
Didn't mean it to be a negative article. I rated the class as an A so I don't think I was that negative. I also gave props to Wilson and Cooper while agreeing that many in this class are underrated.
I simply feel like it could've been better. Like I said, this was the best instate class in decades. We had three 5 stars committed before the start of fall and we still didn't sign a top 5 class.
I also think this was one of the easier instate classes to lock down. Hell the guys were calling each other The Fam and practically recruiting the class themselves. Still a great accomplishment to lock them all down, but this was a special instate class.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:39 pm to FootballNostradamus
You do realize how silly it sounds, your argument, right?
Like a baby, fingers already sticky, crying for yet more candy.
Like a baby, fingers already sticky, crying for yet more candy.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:40 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Kendall Thompson wasn't as realistic as all the people on here made him out to be. It was a pipe dream all along and this whole myth that came about with him was kinda silly...
Not true
back that statement up derby
Posted on 2/3/11 at 7:42 pm to FootballNostradamus
Don't underestimate the effect that the hatchet job piece by ESPN had on our recruiting. Keep in mind that it was re-aired the night before national signing day.
ESPN needs to burn in hell.
ESPN needs to burn in hell.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:22 pm to BilJ
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back that statement up derby
I'm still waiting on him to back up his statement that LSU has signed as many or more players from Florida than Clemson recently.
hint: the numbers are not in his favor.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:34 pm to ProjectP2294
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Since 2008:
Clemson - 15
LSU - 6
but you were close.
Sorry, should've clarified myself. LSU has signed as many elite players from Florida as Clemson has. I don't care if Clemson pulled a bunch of 2-3 stars that LSU never would've offered. Since 2008 (not including this year's class because the point I'm trying to make is that we could've signed more this year), 4 stars or higher signed:
LSU - 6
Clemson - 3
Since 2002:
LSU - 14
Clemson - 6
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:39 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Kendall Thompson wasn't as realistic as all the people on here made him out to be. It was a pipe dream all along and this whole myth that came about with him was kinda silly...
Not true
so specifically what was the incompetence/negligence/mis-management that cost us this recruit? and who should be fired for it?
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:42 pm to ForeLSU
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so specifically what was the incompetence/negligence/mis-management that cost us this recruit? and who should be fired for it?
Never said this
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:42 pm to ForeLSU
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so specifically what was the incompetence/negligence/mis-management that cost us this recruit? and who should be fired for it?
Les Miles should be fired! For
bringing him to BR on an unofficial
This post was edited on 2/3/11 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:43 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Sorry, should've clarified myself. LSU has signed as many elite players from Florida as Clemson has. I don't care if Clemson pulled a bunch of 2-3 stars that LSU never would've offered. Since 2008 (not including this year's class because the point I'm trying to make is that we could've signed more this year), 4 stars or higher signed:
In other words: "My original argument was wrong, so I spent all this time playing with the numbers to figure out a way to spin so I look like I knew what I was talking about."
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:57 pm to ProjectP2294
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In other words: "My original argument was wrong, so I spent all this time playing with the numbers to figure out a way to spin so I look like I knew what I was talking about."
The original argument was that "it's easier for LSU to sign recruits from Florida than it was for Clemson". Would you seriously make the case that Clemson signing a bunch of 2-3 stars that LSU would never have offered as a good example of why it's easier for Clemson to sign Florida kids?
The fact that Clemson signed a 2 star white boy named Daniel Andrews who went to the same school as Jamie Harper is why you think it's easier for Clemson to sign Florida kids? Really? Or is it because they signed 2 star Matt Skinner to be their designated long snapper and he has since left the program? Which is it? No it's obviously 2 star Andrew Diomande who never once played in a game at Clemson before transferring to Vanderbilt.
Your argument is awful.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Your argument is awful.
Exactly what is my argument, outside of you being wrong on the numbers?
Posted on 2/3/11 at 9:02 pm to ProjectP2294
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Exactly what is my argument
That "my original argument was wrong, so I spent all this time playing with the numbers to figure out a way to spin so I look like I knew what I was talking about".
My original argument was that it was easier for LSU to sign Florida kids than it is for Clemson. Please show me some numbers that say otherwise. I think mine did a pretty good job supporting my argument.
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