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re: LSU QB of the Future

Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41972 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:15 pm to
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As much as I hated him....AJ was a winner

We need that
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26688 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:33 pm to
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Winston - 18.8 ypg McCarron - 8.7 ypg Newton - 79.3 ypg McElroy - 2.6 ypg Tebow - 56.4 ypg Flynn - 15.4 ypg Leak - 2.7 ypg Young - 78.2 ypg Leinhart - neg. ypg Mauck - 15.0 ypg


You big headed retard. I said 7 of the last 10 were either dual threats or VERY MOBILE. Young, Newton, Tebow, Winston, Flynn, and Leak, fit this mold. It's not just raw stats, it's how they used their legs to extend plays. Leak ran some read option if you've forgotten. OK maybe 6-10, but whatever. If you take out McCarron (although he's pretty mobile in his own right) 2005-2008, 2010, and 2013 was won by a very mobile or dual threat QB. Flynn ran the ball over 100 times that year incase you forgot.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:07 am to
College quarterbacks nowadays don't normally play with cement in their shoes. Almost everyone suited to play quarterback in the SEC is athletic enough to be a dual threat guy if they truly wanted to but in reality, they know their limitations. But that doesn't mean you still can't be athletic with your feet. Guys like Mett or AJ McCarron weren't threats to take it 85 yards to the house on a designed quarterback draw like Manziel or Nick Marshall could but they were athletic enough to make pinpoint passes rolling out of the pocket or escaping a blitz, improvising, and scrambling for a 1st down when it called for it. Just little things like that athletically translated towards success by the ability to do that alone.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:42 am to
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And Luck is fairly mobile, actually.



bull shite, Luck is very f'ing mobile and athletic
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10041 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 7:24 am to
People who haven't watched Luck's career closely don't realize how big and how fast he really is. shite, I don't think players who haven't seen him live realize how big and fast he is until they actually have to hit him.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:03 am to
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bull shite, Luck is very f'ing mobile and athletic


True. But you know facts be damned on the Rant when there is a bias to be proven.

NFL Combine 40 yard dash

Robert Griffin III 4.41 (Heisman Winner)
Colin Keapernick 4.53
Russell Wilson 4.55 (SB winning QB)
Johnny Manziel 4.56 (Heisman Winner)
Vince Young 4.58
Cam Newton 4.59 (Heisman Winner)
Andrew Luck 4.59 (Heisman Runner up to RGIII))

Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23179 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:37 am to
Zadrock Dinkleman
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:03 am to
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Dual threats are exciting for sure, but most seem to not be able to win the big game when it counts.


Yep. When you look at Cam, tebows, Russell Wilson and Vince youngs resumes all you see is missed opportunities.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26688 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:45 am to
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Zadrock Dinkleman


They say he plays some WR too.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 1:59 am to
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I said 7 of the last 10 were either dual threats or VERY MOBILE.

Youre too dumb to know how stupid you are

It almost every BCS championship game, the more "mobile" qb lost:

Nick Marshall
Golston
Darron Thomas
Jefferson
Colt McCoy (injured while running)
Troy Smith
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Michael Vick
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 2:56 pm to
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Youre too dumb to know how stupid you are

It almost every BCS championship game, the more "mobile" qb lost:

Nick Marshall
Golston
Darron Thomas
Jefferson
Colt McCoy (injured while running)
Troy Smith
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Michael Vick


You aren't really calling someone dumb and then using the argument that the more mobile QB lost in almost every BCS championship game, are you? Without looking at the winning QB, starting with Jameis last year? Really?

How about listing the winning QB next to those that you listed who lost for a true comparison. And did you really list Jason White? Who was he faster than? Were Flynn and Mauch slower than their counterparts?

Did you forget about the fact that those losing QBs took their team to the ultimate title game. And you forgot about the possibility that the winning QB may have happened to have the better coach or better defense or better team. Sort of like Trent Dilfer winning the Superbowl and Dan Marino never even going to a Superbowl. Or did you notice the more mobile QB won the Superbowl this year? Guess what, he had the better team as well.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26688 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 5:15 pm to
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Youre too dumb to know how stupid you are It almost every BCS championship game, the more "mobile" qb lost: Nick Marshall Golston Darron Thomas Jefferson Colt McCoy (injured while running) Troy Smith Jason White Eric Crouch Michael Vick


Good thing you're a retard, because this post is dissapointing.

Vince Young
Matt Flynn
Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Tim Tebow
Chris Leak

Were all very mobile. Are you really going to make point by saying one very mobile QB beat another? get real. I also listed the last 10 winning champions. Three were by Bama and all their QB has to do is show up. The other is Matt Leinart. So stop trying to challenge what I didn't say and challenge what I did. You quoted me then ran off a list that most on it were gone already. The game is changing and you can't do anything about it. Six out of the last nine have been won by a very mobile or dual threat. Hell most of the ones in it have a very mobile or dual threat. The proof is there nickel nuts.
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7750 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:03 pm to
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quote: the NCG has been won buy either a dual threat or very mobile guy 7 out of the last 10 years. horseshite!! Rushing stats Winston - 18.8 ypg McCarron - 8.7 ypg Newton - 79.3 ypg McElroy - 2.6 ypg Tebow - 56.4 ypg Flynn - 15.4 ypg Leak - 2.7 ypg Young - 78.2 ypg Leinhart - neg. ypg Mauck - 15.0 ypg Only Young, Tebow, and Newton have significant rushing yards


Are you honestly trying to say you have to have high rushing yards per game in order to be considered mobile? If so that's stupid.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:14 pm to
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Jason White



I don't want to get into you two's love spat but My ten year old daughter could have outran Jason White. He played with two kneebraces and was not mobile.
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