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Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:35 pm to Tigerbait357
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think giving schools the ability to extend eligibility will be an option but the scholarship question and roster cap limits are areas I am intrigued how they handle.
Given how this was an extreme reaction to an unprecedented situation there could well be a unique expansion of eligibility and scholarship limits to accomodate the situation. The required funding could be covered by the revenue for championship events.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:36 pm to tigersbb
I thought about this last night but you wonder how the current pandemic could impact recruiting, specifically relating to the Olympics.
If the Olympics is potentially pushed back, multiple signees may push back their college careers. UCLA, Florida and Utah potentially are impacted by that.
If the Olympics is potentially pushed back, multiple signees may push back their college careers. UCLA, Florida and Utah potentially are impacted by that.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:44 am to tigersbb
I’m still against allowing seniors another year, as horrible as that may sound.
It would greatly benefit the teams who have the biggest senior classes. Those teams also have the biggest income freshmen to replace them. You have other teams who had one or two seniors and only two or so coming in and they will be competing with a team with less athletes on it and far less experience. If you limit scholarships/athlete totals then how is that fair to the freshmen who are suddenly cut from a team and left trying to find a last minute place to go? You just can’t. As harsh as it is, their careers are done. I don’t see any fair way to give them another season. Maybe someone will come up with an idea that works but I haven’t heard of one yet.
It would greatly benefit the teams who have the biggest senior classes. Those teams also have the biggest income freshmen to replace them. You have other teams who had one or two seniors and only two or so coming in and they will be competing with a team with less athletes on it and far less experience. If you limit scholarships/athlete totals then how is that fair to the freshmen who are suddenly cut from a team and left trying to find a last minute place to go? You just can’t. As harsh as it is, their careers are done. I don’t see any fair way to give them another season. Maybe someone will come up with an idea that works but I haven’t heard of one yet.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:50 pm to BigB0882
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If you limit scholarships/athlete totals then how is that fair to the freshmen who are suddenly cut from a team and left trying to find a last minute place to go? You just can’t.
The NCAA could grant waivers on scholarship limits to accommodate any athletes who would have ordinarily completed their careers. No reason to cut any incoming freshmen. This won't be as large an issue as everyone seems to believe as not every senior will take advantage of the opportunity.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:29 pm to tigersbb
Looking more like this will happen for spring sports
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:58 pm to tigersbb
I feel so bad for all of the athletes. To have your season end so abruptly is quite unfathomable. Edney won’t get the chance to defend for vault title, which saddens me so much. Just seems so unfair.
With that being said, this has been a very challenging season for LSU. I cannot remember a season where they’ve suffered so many injuries. And with Edney being injured again and Edwards most likely not being able to return this season, I find it hard for LSU to make up the difference on the other three events. It was really hard to see this team advancing past regionals. Of course a lot of that depended on matchups. And I know this is mean to say, but I’d rather not see OU or Florida hoist up another championship after all the injuries LSU has had. I don’t know. It’s been a tough season and I just want to see a all the athletes get healthy for next year.
With that being said, this has been a very challenging season for LSU. I cannot remember a season where they’ve suffered so many injuries. And with Edney being injured again and Edwards most likely not being able to return this season, I find it hard for LSU to make up the difference on the other three events. It was really hard to see this team advancing past regionals. Of course a lot of that depended on matchups. And I know this is mean to say, but I’d rather not see OU or Florida hoist up another championship after all the injuries LSU has had. I don’t know. It’s been a tough season and I just want to see a all the athletes get healthy for next year.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:58 pm to tigersbb
But it will benefit those with the bigger senior teams. They will have more athletes, thus more depth. If this happens I won’t be mad, because I do feel for the athletes. But mark my words, we will see who has benefited from this the most and it will those with large senior classes.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:00 pm to BigB0882
I don’t see it happening for gymnastics. The regular season was pretty much over.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:05 pm to BigB0882
So, all the seniors get screwed over because UCLA has a big senior class?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 4:11 pm to BigB0882
I don’t see them giving gymnasts an extra year. They had pretty much a full regular season. You can’t give a extra year to the seniors without giving everyone else an extra year.
I can understand the reasoning behind some of the spring sports as some played much less than half their seasons.
I can understand the reasoning behind some of the spring sports as some played much less than half their seasons.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:21 pm to Tigerbait357
FYI a new FB group has formed called “College Gymnastics Fans”. Hopefully it will be a friendlier place for LSU fans.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:40 pm to BunnieGene
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:42 pm to BunnieGene
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FYI a new FB group has formed called “College Gymnastics Fans”. Hopefully it will be a friendlier place for LSU fans.
So they shut the other page down? It became way too dramatic it seemed. The moderators themselves were lunatics.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:21 pm to Tigerbait357
I think it’s just down for the weekend; one of the mods had a hissy fit over something; not sure exactly.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:23 pm to tlricks04
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I feel so bad for all of the athletes. To have your season end so abruptly is quite unfathomable. Edney won’t get the chance to defend for vault title, which saddens me so much. Just seems so unfair.
I feel awful for Edney and Ruby to have not just their seasons cut short but their careers so abruptly. They didn’t even get the chance to enjoy senior night in the pmac. In the end I think both have been able to cope well with this given their great experiences at LSU and the memories they made in this sport. They can look back with not a lot of regrets, they accomplished a lot. More than most girls could say.
As harsh as it may sound, the season ending abruptly could be a blessing for this team in the long run. We were barely holding on to field a team with the injuries piling up. Kiyas Achilles were really bothering her towards the end of the year. This gives LSU the chance to truly focus on health. Kiya, Desiderio, Edwards, Alyona, Kai, Campbell, Gunter, Smith and Ryan all desperately need a pause to get back on track for the future.
Goal number one this offseason is get healthy and get in good physical shape. We need a foundation that starts with being healthy. These last two years have been nightmares with this. Can’t develop without this.
Goal number two is go back to the drawing board with the routine construction. We will have a lot of talent to work with next year and a chance to go far provided we can stay healthy. We could maximize a lot more of our scores with simple adjustments to routines. Water down leaps and take out difficulty in appropriate spots.
Goal three, We need to really dial in on leaps and toe point. It was an eye bug this year and it’s extremely obvious. That is the difference for a lot of routines that go 9.85/9.875 verses 9.90/9.925. That has to be dramatically improved on beam and floor.
Floor Choreography has to be better. The ones given this year were dissapointing to me. We need better creativity. The current style has become stale and repetitive. Believe it or not, routines can score higher provided they include good presentation and are well put together. This goes for beam as well.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:33 pm to Tigerbait357
Tigerbait, do you have much faith that those are goals the coaches have, too? Especially the ones concerning routine construction?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:59 pm to TigerFan112
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Tigerbait, do you have much faith that those are goals the coaches have, too? Especially the ones concerning routine construction?
Get healthy? Hell yes, I think everyone was at a loss for words with the team this year. Jay and DD have been in this sport for decades and have never had a team this banged up.
Routine construction? That has been my personal pet peeve over the years. I think there have been moments where we make good adjustments but there is still too many issues with our overall construction. The difficult leaps on beam need to go. Outside of Campbell, no one should be doing the switch leap to switch half. I don’t know why LSU doesn’t connect skills into beat jumps anymore, personally it’s a connection many can do and not get hit for leap position. The leaps on floor for a few routines are questionable.
Alyona needs a new routine. At the minimum a New dismount. The double layout is not consistent and begs for deductions. I don’t know what jay can do but they need to experiment this offseason. I personally don’t like her having the Maloney in there mainly because she usually has a small leg separation that she gets hit for. I really think a more watered down routine with a better dismount would be a consistent 9.9 scorer. I personally wanted a Lexie Priessman type routine construction. Difficult yet short and simple. Let her focus on polishing hand stands and toe point. When it comes down to post season, they really focus on overall execution. I am not saying abandon difficulty but you need to be smart about it.
When it gets down to it, coaches should be putting routines out there that allows them to do what they do well but also minimize deductions. Ross and Nichols aren’t getting 100s of 10s doing elite level routines. Trinity Thomas has difficulty but smart difficulty. They are not putting skills out there that are built in deductions. At LSU that is our issue right now.
DD has been made aware of some things about choreography this year. I will be interested in what she says to ACK and how they deal with it. Im not sure how the coaches can not see the issue. The routines have gone down in quality.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 12:13 am
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:43 am to Tigerbait357
I agree with everything. I first started watching in 2017 (Gnat's senior year) and there was a huge difference between how strong and fit that team was and the current team. The floor cheorography was also much better then, with different routine styles. I think it would be best to develop individual routines for the girls rather than recycle legacy routines. They also need to pay attention to the leaps on floor. I remember being quite impressed with the creativity used to develop a beam routine for McKenna. It might be a good idea to explore what other leap options are available for some of the girls with built in form errors on leaps, both for beam and floor.
For Alyona, why not a full piro into a double tuck? She competed it as a junior elite. It seems well within her capability.
I'm just glad the freshmen get a break, especially Kiya. Was getting worried for her. Competing AA weekly with a sore achilles is not a good recipe.
For Alyona, why not a full piro into a double tuck? She competed it as a junior elite. It seems well within her capability.
I'm just glad the freshmen get a break, especially Kiya. Was getting worried for her. Competing AA weekly with a sore achilles is not a good recipe.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:21 am to Tigerbait357
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DD has been made aware of some things about choreography this year. I will be interested in what she says to ACK and how they deal with it. Im not sure how the coaches can not see the issue.
Is there an issue of sensitivity with objectively evaluating floor routines? The choreography is created by a volunteer coach who is also a former major star in the LSU program. It does seem LSU incorporates swag and boldness in their floor routines while other elite teams seem to be more bread and butter done very tightly.
LSU seems to get one or two who score high with this approach but there is a drastic reduction in the other scores while the steady as she goes teams seem to get those extra points which are often the difference. Can they address it without hurting feelings and being ungrateful?
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