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re: Looking ahead to the 2011 class...

Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:28 pm to
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We have really good LB in state for '11 also. I think some people are over looking him a little. Tharinger has him as #5 La recruit in '11

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Great point. I am probably making a mistake by forgetting about him. He reminds me of a guy like Shaun Lewis.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:30 pm to
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as far as the Doucet comparisons, Early's film was some of the best you'll ever see from an athletic stand point.



Oh, no doubt. But I think people were mislead with his speed just because he was indeed a great athlete, play QB in HS, and had the ball in his hands all the time.

Similarly to Shyronne Carey and Lucas Taylor. Just 2 names I thought of off the top of my head, but both were considered great athletes, had great film, but neither could sniff 4.4 speed if they tried.


but Landry's film, if put in proper context, as a SOPH, is on a pretty elite level on his own.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8886 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:30 pm to
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#3. Jarvis Landry/WR/Lutcher
Good hands that could improve.


Landrys got some of the best hands Ive seen for a HS reciever.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:32 pm to
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Similarly to Shyronne Carey and Lucas Taylor. Just 2 names I thought of off the top of my head, but both were considered great athletes, had great film, but neither could sniff 4.4 speed if they tried


I disagree on Shyronne. I think he was every bit of a 4.4 and maybe better.
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:32 pm to
tharinger is nothing that great guys. I would go with 'worldofx''s stuff way over theirs.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:33 pm to
i don't think people on here are giving enough props to reed's hands. landry is sick and will be a dominant receiver. although reed is a much different type of receiver the dude can still flat out catch. he'll do a lot of damage in the open field. i think as far as them being a bit undersized, they'll be viewed similarly in the national spotlight.

in their respective classes, they're the best receiver in the state.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:34 pm to
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i was commenting on the fact that someone compared landry to doucet physically and athletically.


they arent comparable when someone says "smallish WR who dont run a 4.4 arent 5 stars"


you cant really argue that they arent similar in that regard


Landry will prob be 190lbs come his SR, which bodes well for him compared to someone like Doucet who probably did get too bulky, because he came into LSU at about 205.


and Doucet left LSU with a career 12.1 YPC average, hardly a guy that would boast 4.4 speed.


but we are compring them coming out of HS. Neither are prototypical size for what you want in a WR, but that was irrelevant to the point i was trying to make.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:35 pm to
i don't think the lb tharinger rated 5th is worthy of that. maybe top 10. he's fast, but undersized right now. he could be a nice athletic lb, but not a guy i would rank in the top 5 as of now.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:36 pm to
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I disagree on Shyronne. I think he was every bit of a 4.4 and maybe better.



see, Carey may be the best HS player I've ever seen, but I dont think he was ever a 4.4 guy

Which is kind of what my point was. A lot of great athletes aren't 4.4 guys, and esp these guys that are playing QB in HS, their speed on film can be deceiving because of their great athletic ability.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:39 pm to
I agree with you. Back when he played at LSU I saw two separate times on lsusports.net that he ran a 4.3 and that him and henderson were the two fastest on the team. That's why I say he was every bit of 4.4. You may be right though.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14637 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:39 pm to
doucet was always meant to be that guy who could go over the middle and use his body to get that 3rd and 7. he wasn't the type of receiver who was going to go down field and make you pay. landry has that ability.

i'm not hating on your point. just saying that doucet's film and physical play garnered his status. landry will get overlooked a bit i'm afraid, but i agree with you that he will be every bit more effective.

love andre dawson by the way. was my hero growing up as a struggling cubs fan.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:41 pm to
hmmmm, possibly, im looking at his bio now and i dont see mention of it. But a lot of these HS times are embellished. That's my point.

It may just be that im thinking of that chubby Shyronne from his later days at LSU. Like that fine girl from HS that ends up being 200lbs 5 years later.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:42 pm to
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he wasn't the type of receiver who was going to go down field and make you pay.


I know he wasnt, but out of HS, he was supposed to be a gamebreaker. Thats kind of my point.

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love andre dawson by the way. was my hero growing up as a struggling cubs fan.



the Hawk
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:43 pm to
Im thinking he will be closely compared to Arrelious Benn once rankings are being established.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:48 pm to
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hmmmm, possibly, im looking at his bio now and i dont see mention of it. But a lot of these HS times are embellished. That's my point.


It wasn't in his bio. It would have been an article. I believe it was the players who said those two were the fastest and ran 4.3.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24727 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:49 pm to
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Arrelious Benn


Physically superior to JL in just about every aspect.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:49 pm to
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Physically superior to JL in just about every aspect.


yea I don't get this either.
Posted by TigerBait45
Moreauville, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:53 pm to
Jarvis isn't physically imposing but he runs great routes and just gets open. He's been sterling in all the camps I've seen (at the UT camp the only guy that could stay with him was Tyrann Mathieu, coincidentally)

He's kind of like Josh Reed in that regard. He's not really big, he's not really fast, but he gets open and he doesn't drop the ball.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24727 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:54 pm to
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Jarvis isn't physically imposing but he runs great routes and just gets open. He's been sterling in all the camps I've seen (at the UT camp the only guy that could stay with him was Tyrann Mathieu, coincidentally)

He's kind of like Josh Reed in that regard. He's not really big, he's not really fast, but he gets open and he doesn't drop the ball.



DIng Ding Ding.
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
2248 posts
Posted on 7/28/09 at 4:56 pm to
He also is really good with the ball in his hands. So much so that I think he'd make a good RB. IMO he's a definite top 50 prospect. Like I said, look at where Ambles is ranked, and he's better than Ambles.
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