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If Cali pipeline is established, dominance will be as well.

Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:07 pm
We already get recruits from southeast and occasionally northeast. California is loaded with talent though.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:14 pm to
If LSU is able to establish a Wiskey pipeline through Aranda that would pay dividends also
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 5:18 pm to
That’s for sure... when is the last time Wisconsin didn’t have a great offensive line?
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 5:23 pm to
Never
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 5:28 pm to
I agree with theory because it means getting the best no matter their home. However, just because they're Californian really means nothing. The PAC 12 is loaded with CA talent and is essentially a flash in the pan, dead conference. As a whole, again while an elite talent base, the state has a soft, maxed out, laid back reputation as the talent develops.
I love our extension out there but I'm not getting carried away. I'll take an elite southeast talent before an elite CA kid every time. Then again, elite is elite so you take whichever ones want in.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 5:29 pm to
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when is the last time Wisconsin didn’t have a great offensive line?

But, LSU would be crucified on here and everywhere else because they'd need to get those 3 star guys and develop them for a couple years before they would pay dividends. People don't like those 3 star's, they want all those 4 and 5 stars. It's a catch 22, a double edged sword, a conundrum of sorts, can't win for losing.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 5:49 pm to
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I agree with theory because it means getting the best no matter their home. However, just because they're Californian really means nothing. The PAC 12 is loaded with CA talent and is essentially a flash in the pan, dead conference. As a whole, again while an elite talent base, the state has a soft, maxed out, laid back reputation as the talent develops.
I love our extension out there but I'm not getting carried away. I'll take an elite southeast talent before an elite CA kid every time. Then again, elite is elite so you take whichever ones want in.


Absolutely right. The state has its fair share of studs but it’s no different than Texas or Florida. You still have to find the right guys and develope them.

As for the Wisconsin thing, go look at their recruiting classes the past 8 years. They take multiple 6’5-6’7 TE and OT every year and they end up developing them into top OL talent. There’s a bunch of big TE’s we are recruiting this year, and if the staff was smart they would take 2-3 of them and start packing on weight as soon as they make it to campus.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 6:41 pm to
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If LSU is able to establish a Wiskey pipeline through Aranda that would pay dividends also


I've been saying that for years. Wisconsin produces a ton of great offensive lineman. That's something that Louisiana is lacking in.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:34 pm to
LSU's always had talent no matter where it comes from, talent has never been an issue at LSU. But in order to establish dominance you need good solid coaching, something LSU has not had in awhile.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:53 am to
No LSU has never been this successful with nation wide recruiting since Saban. This staff knows what they’re doing. They have identified guys long time ago and know who they want. LSU will also get many more easy coast guys this year. All those Baltimore guys and that will create some buzz around LSU in that area.

I’ve been saying that LSU needs to hit that VA, MD, NJ, DC, NC areas. It’s plush with talent and elite talent. If LSU can combine CA with that east coast hot bed and then continue the East Texas, GA, AL, MS, FL and of course LA recruiting at a high level we will be a national contender in short order. I also agree that LSU should establish some type of mid west or northern pipeline for the OL and TEs. Of course we can do without it but it helps tremendously to have it.

It’s all about momentum in college sports. Take full advantage of your highs and minimize the lows. If you do that then you’ll have your roster stacked with high character talent who want to work hard for the HC and elevate the program or brand. By recruiting guys from different areas, once those guys make it to the big time, that carries over to the original area the prospect is from and the next generation of talent will see LSU as a legitimate championship program across the country.

Orgeron isn’t just picking up one or two though he’s out there promoting LSU and hyping these entire communities offering 7 or 8 of those guys and generating some excitement around the LSU brand. It just spreads like wildfire, which is great. Go Tigers!
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:50 am to
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However, just because they're Californian really means nothing. The PAC 12 is loaded with CA talent and is essentially a flash in the pan, dead conference.
This is such a fricking stupid statement.

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As a whole, again while an elite talent base, the state has a soft, maxed out, laid back reputation as the talent develops.
Good fricking Lord.

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I'll take an elite southeast talent before an elite CA kid every time.
More bullshite.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:55 am to
The year before the triple option was first implemented
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42310 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:01 am to
O connections paying off out there and it helps that USC is struggling right now and UCLA is still in wait and see mode with Kelly

All it takes is USC hiring the right coach to shut it down out there.

I'm guessing Helton will be on a short leash this year.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10799 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:01 am to
Usc will eventually be a formidable team again, but just bc of that doesn’t mean it shuts us out. They can’t sign #1-25 ranked recruits out of CA every year. Some kids will want to go out if state as always and that’s the ones we will focus on

Think of all the kids from here that go elsewhere. We sign guys from bama Florida etc and those states have some of the best programs in the country
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:19 am to
Recruiting California kids is how Colorado became very good under Bill McCartney.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4332 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:20 am to
Wisconsin has lineman. Pennsylvania and Ohio have more. However pass blocking offensive tackles are hard to come by.

Having said that our highest level competitors all have reasonably effective right and left tackles. Bama Florida TAM. Auburn. Georgia. Either that or we have a very poor pass rush.. probably some of both.

Someone on here and some of,our pundits talk about our slow developing pass offense putting more pressure on our line. Maybe so.. but Bama breaks down our protection so,fast it does not matter what the pass play is.
Posted by lsupicker
Member since Oct 2015
1283 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:23 am to
2019 signee Thomas Perry is a good example of the Wisc. type offensive lineman, 3 star and unheralded, but who knows how good he will be in two years
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:41 pm to
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No LSU has never been this successful with nation wide recruiting since Saban.
Never said they were this successful with nationwide recruiting, y'all once again have clearly misunderstood what I said which is the norm on here. So, I guess I need to elaborate, what I meant is that LSU has always had great local talent, they didn't really need a pipeline from other states because the local talent has always been enough for them to win. The local talent is amongst the best in the country hands down, LSU has always just needed a handful of outside talent at most to fill some key positions, but the local talent has always been enough to win.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:53 pm to
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LSU's always had talent no matter where it comes from, talent has never been an issue at LSU. But in order to establish dominance you need good solid coaching, something LSU has not had in awhile.


Were you around from 1990-1994? I agree that we need good coaching though.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:02 pm to
Half of these crybabies don’t even know what it’s like to have a bad football team and think LSU has been a blue-blood since football started
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