re: Has LSU dropped the Redemptorist RB charged with rape?

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at what age is a guy young enough for NOT being a criminal to be blown by a 14 year old?

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First of all, from a value perspective It's not ok for any 14 year old girl to be blowing a guy of any age.

However, from a criminal perspective, if you are at an age of adulthood, it is a no brainer. This is where Jeremy Hill falls. He is an adult. He should be treated as an adult.

If you are younger than 18, then I would say it would be circumstantial. And, if there is any indication that the guy coerced or manipulated a younger party into performing a sexual act, then he should be charged under the statutory laws. In other words, a 17 year old who is dating a 16 year old and has consensual sex, is different than a group of 17 year old guys manipulating a 14 year old into participating in a gang bang. The former should not be punished. That latter is definitely a criminal act, IMO.

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If you are younger than 18, then I would say it would be circumstantial.

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so you create one legal fiction in declaring the age of 18 to be adulthood

but then state that it's circumstantial under that age

so circumstances don't apply if you're 18? his maturity level isn't taken into account?

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And, if there is any indication that the guy coerced or manipulated a younger party into performing a sexual act, then he should be charged under the statutory laws.

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dude

think about what you're saying

think about every time you've been laid

then go back and re-read what you just typed

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That latter is definitely a criminal act, IMO.

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you would suck at being a lawyer. Its definitely criminal in your opinion? What is criminal and what isn't is not based on your opinion or anyone else's.

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Discretion on whether a minor is charged as an adult happens all of the time, dude. You should know this.

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what does this have to do with anything? Nothing in this fact pattern has anything to do with whether a minor should be charged as an adult.

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You WILL suck at being a lawyer.

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more personal insults because you are failing in your argument

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I don't have a dog in this one but he just turned around the exact same personal insult you just threw at him

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nah, he's trying to make it personal because he knows I'm in law school.

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what does this have to do with anything? Nothing in this fact pattern has anything to do with whether a minor should be charged as an adult.

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It was in response to the question SFP asked me about how I would deal with a 17 year old who engages in sex with another minor.

My answer was that there is a difference between a 17 year old who is dating a 16 year old and a group of 17 year olds who coerce a 14 year old into participating in a gang bang.

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more personal insults because you are failing in your argument

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Dude, it was a direct reply to your "You would suck at being a lawyer" comment.

You are a guy who sees nothing wrong with what Jeremy Hill did. I think it was wrong. I can guarantee you won't change my opinion. I suspect that I won't change yours and that says something about you, IMO.

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You are a guy who sees nothing wrong with what Jeremy Hill did.

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I've said many times throughout this thread that I think what he did was wrong. I just don't think prison is the appropriate punishment. I think he can learn his lesson without having to go to prison but right now what good would sending him to prison for a few months serve? So he can come out and be a bag boy at a grocery store? Let him have a chance at going to college and making something of himself. He'll have to live with the stigma of what he has done, serve probation, and probably not play at a major college as it is.

ETA: These types of cases should be heard on a case by case basis IMO. What he did should still be punished, just not as harshly as say a 24 year old in his shoes...

you can't believe that someone did something wrong without thinking he deserves prison. Should he have done what he did? Probably not. Should he be imprisoned for it? No.

But it really shows what type of father you'll turn out to be if you don't think the girl should have known that blowing two guys in a locker room is a little uncouth.

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this situation has nothing to do with rape rape. NOTHING

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Did you READ the 3 long posts that had what it constituted by LAW?
Sex Crime dude. He is a FELONY.
Drop it.
It is DONE! He was almost 19 and she was 14.

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WRONG. Why? because MY tax dollars and my TAF money in this case would pay for it.

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I didn't say LSU. I've said in here LSU shouldn't honor his scholly but Cecil Collins got a second chance at a small school...

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ine AFTER he has paid for his crime.

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I agree, and I just think that punishment should be some probation, community service etc...