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re: Has LSU dropped the Redemptorist RB charged with rape?
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:38 pm to moneyg
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:38 pm to moneyg
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A 14 year old who does something for attention, is still a victim
there are no victims in this scenario, assuming no force was used
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He should go to jail
laughable
go to jail for a victimless crime? illogical
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so that he understands exactly how wrong his actions were.
his actions weren't that wrong, so the consequences should be minimal
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Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
You've definately got a scene from Traffic coming your way should you have kids.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:41 pm to moneyg
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a.) equated this situation to a simple blow job
it is a simple blowjob (or 2, if you will
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b.) called the victim a skank
she willingly blew 2 guys
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c.) declared it ok since they are schoolmates in the "same social circles" (which is in itself a bit crazy)
it's debatable if it's ok, but it's certainly not bad enough to warrant a felony
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d.) blamed the law as being the problem
it is
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e.) declared it a travesty if he ends up with any jail time
it would be
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f.) indicated that the 14 year old child is not a victim
she willingly blew him. she's not a victim in any sense of the word
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g.) blamed the situation on her for being a high school girl who is willing to do crazy shite to get notices.
i mean shifting/focusing the blame should be irrelevant. all parties deserve blame
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h.) finished it off by calling jail time for Jeremy Hill crazy.
it is. this was a victimless offense. and this is by all accounts his first run-in with the law
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:42 pm to Jaketigger
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Talk to a rape victim or one the willingly went and later denied it or one that was too young and dumb, as he claims Hill was, to know any better, but as she grew up she realized how wrong it was. Girls like that will usually have some serious emotional issues to deal with later in life.
that's good and all, but she wasn't raped
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Ask his mom how she would have felt or his sister.
?
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Now we know why so many rapes go unreported...
this situation has nothing to do with rape rape. NOTHING
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:43 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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You seem to think jail is for rehabilitation and I see it as retributution.
if you believe jail is for punishment then you should be 100% behind hill not going to jail
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:46 pm to moneyg
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You may not like this, but your stance on this subject says A LOT about the type of person you are.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slow, thanks for basically making every assertion I was going to make in response to his points. 
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:49 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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You've definately got a scene from Traffic coming your way should you have kids.
if i have a girl who willingly blows 2 guys at the same time at 14 then i have failed as a parent
Posted on 1/22/11 at 3:53 pm to Elleshoe
i don't know if it's my age (when i'm somewhat old now) or my amazing memory, but i remember high school
people always underrated the mental abilities of high schoolers, and as i've grown older and seen so many people who are complete dumbasses in their 20s/30s, i realize the perception is even worse
are teens WISE? no. wisdom is gained through experiences, both good and bad. and you have to be cognizant of your triumphs and failures, and analyze what led to both. then have the memory to apply these past actions/consequences in the future. wisdom isn't for everyone, so its a moot point to me.
can teens comprehend their actions? yes, for the most part
can teens comprehend all of the consequences of their actions? debateable, but like with wisdom, this doesn't get better for plebs typically anyway (due to refusal to "look back" and analyze themselves)
people always underrated the mental abilities of high schoolers, and as i've grown older and seen so many people who are complete dumbasses in their 20s/30s, i realize the perception is even worse
are teens WISE? no. wisdom is gained through experiences, both good and bad. and you have to be cognizant of your triumphs and failures, and analyze what led to both. then have the memory to apply these past actions/consequences in the future. wisdom isn't for everyone, so its a moot point to me.
can teens comprehend their actions? yes, for the most part
can teens comprehend all of the consequences of their actions? debateable, but like with wisdom, this doesn't get better for plebs typically anyway (due to refusal to "look back" and analyze themselves)
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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f a girl blew 2 guys in a locker room it just shows she's whorish and makes it less serious on hill's end
She's 14 dude.
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she's 14 and willingly blew 2 guys. she deserves no protection in this regard
She's 14. She deserves protection for that reason.
Would you be ok with it if she were 13 and willingly blew him?
What if she were 12 and willingly blew him.
Where is your personal line, since you admittedly are ok with sexual contact with a 14 year old.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there are no victims in this scenario, assuming no force was used
The 14 year old who was convinced to give a blow job to two 18 year olds on school property and then was filmed doing it is the victim.
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go to jail for a victimless crime? illogical
You calling it a victimless crime doesn't make it one. You haven't made a single point to support your position, much less a persuasive argument.
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his actions weren't that wrong, so the consequences should be minimal
...says the guy who is ok with sexual contact with a 14 year old.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:26 pm to moneyg
If its an offense punishable by jailtime then maybe 14 and 18 year olds shouldn't be in the same schools. Let's see how that would work out.
Where the law fails is that there is no debate in the circumstances. Is what he did stupid? Sure. But they SHOULD take into account if they were in the same social circles and whatnot. Its not like he's a senior at LSU getting blown by a high school freshman.
Where the law fails is that there is no debate in the circumstances. Is what he did stupid? Sure. But they SHOULD take into account if they were in the same social circles and whatnot. Its not like he's a senior at LSU getting blown by a high school freshman.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:31 pm to Elleshoe
I shared recent science to the effect that certain brain functions do not complete in humans until after age 27.
The planning function is in that part of the brain.
Our young perverts were all operating under the amyglia.
Is that the right spelling?
Emotions rule them.
The video part is perhaps the best thing about all this.
I am praying someone on TD snags a copy for us to view.
The planning function is in that part of the brain.
Our young perverts were all operating under the amyglia.
Is that the right spelling?
Emotions rule them.
The video part is perhaps the best thing about all this.
I am praying someone on TD snags a copy for us to view.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if i have a girl who willingly blows 2 guys at the same time at 14 then i have failed as a parent
If you, as a 20 something year old have a 14 year old blow you, you are a sick human being...regardless of whether or not the 14 year old had failed parenting. You are also a criminal, and you should be in jail and labeled a sex offender for the rest of your life.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:33 pm to ottothewise
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The video part is perhaps the best thing about all this.
I am praying someone on TD snags a copy for us to view.
Holy shite. Did you just pray to see a video of an 18 year old getting a blowjob from a 14 year old? You are a sick dude.
I didn't think it was possible to think less of you than I already did.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:39 pm to moneyg
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She's 14 dude.
14 year olds know what they're doing
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Where is your personal line,
i don't have a personal line based on age alone
some girls hit puberty sooner and later than others, for example
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:40 pm to moneyg
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The 14 year old who was convinced to give a blow job to two 18 year olds on school property and then was filmed doing it is the victim.
how?
she willingly blew 2 guys
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You calling it a victimless crime doesn't make it one.
no
the fact that it is a victimless crime makes it a victimless crime
care to tell me how she's a victim for doing something harmless, willingly?
This post was edited on 1/22/11 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:41 pm to moneyg
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...says the guy who is ok with sexual contact with a 14 year old.
where is YOUR line?
at what age is a guy young enough for NOT being a criminal to be blown by a 14 year old?
is 15 too old? 16? 17?
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:44 pm to Elleshoe
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Where the law fails is that there is no debate in the circumstances
So, people like yourself can blame the 14 year old and hold her to the same standard as the 18 year old? So, you can blame her for being a skank?
No. I want a law that definitively protects 14 year old children from being taken advantage of by adults. A 14 year old is so young and immature that she cannot consent. That is the way it should be.
Having said that, even if you did look into the circumstances, this would be a case that is on the extremely bad end of the spectrum. It involves two guys, at school (not in a social situation), with a videotape.
Posted on 1/22/11 at 5:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't have a personal line based on age alone
That is disgusting.
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