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re: Foster over Goodrich for the following reasons

Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:07 am to
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1971 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:07 am to
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I want Goodrich. LSU can sign a QB next season.


This is insane! Since when can LSU just “sign a QB next season”? Have you been following LSU football? We’ve struggled to recruit QBs for years, and in the meantime have had star DBs marching through the program season after season and haven’t sniffed the playoffs. I don’t care if Goodrich is 10 times the player Foster is, if Nick and Jimbo think Foster is good enough for their programs, he is sure as hell good enough for LSU.

We can’t keep picking players because of recruiting ranking, we have to address needs as well - and we have no bigger need than QB. Brennan/Narcisse are no sure things, hell, Narcisse might transfer after the Spring if he thinks he’s out of the running to start. Of course we take the QB if we can, adding another DB instead is nuts.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26648 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:54 am to
LSU is more than likely to come into the Miami game with 2 QBs on the roster, we also, without Goodrich and Surtain, will only have 3 corners on the roster. LSU will most certainly have at least 8 WRs on the roster, with none being seniors and only one having major production previously (Giles transfer). I know I will get a lot of hate for this, but we need to prioritize a QB over a WR.

With what Taggart did with Flowers, and what Fisher did with Blackman. I don't want to see that for FSU or TAMU 1-2 years down the road. A 6'5 170lb 3 star true freshman threw for 19 TDs in 12 games with one of the worst OL's in the nation for FSU this year. Flowers has been a monster for USF the past 2 years.

I'd rather Foster not be the next successful QB we had a legit chance to get, yet missed out on (there are plenty from the Miles regime). I'd rather we lose Chase. Goodrich is needed more because we are paper thin at corner, Foster is needed more because we are thin at QB, and IMO, will be paper thin by the start of next season. The school Foster could likely choose outside of us, has a QB guru and plays us every year.

I see several guys say that Foster isn't that good, but I wonder if they also said Bridgewater, RG3, Prescott, and Darren Thomas, among others, weren't that good either.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1971 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 10:53 am to
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I'd rather we lose Chase. Goodrich is needed more because we are paper thin at corner,


Good point. I’d take Goodrich over Chase too, and Foster over either.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:05 pm to
I think the early signing period caused a miss in the numbers by Us.

All of these are vital recruits and we are 1 scholarship short.

Just my view.

That is why all the debate now.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39358 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:09 pm to
True, Goodrich is probably another mediocre guy like Greedy. Why waste a scholarship on that?

I guess guys like you are just incapable of learning from experience. Delpit outperforms 5 star Stevens, Greedy outperforms 5 star Fulton, but you are 100% sure Goodrich can’t do similar.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10804 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:16 pm to
I really hope you are joking that you’d rather lose chase for Goodrich. We are thin at corner, but go take a look at the recruits next year.

Chase can be a game changer alongside Marshall. he’s a big physical receiver who actually knows the receiving position concepts. He’s a smart receiver along with the athletic freakish ability
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:22 pm to
If Foster was a difference maker I would be on board . I would take Goodrich all day. Why take a QB just to take one . We play lots of CBs all at one time . With all the new spread offenses you can never have enough cornerbacks
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1971 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I would take Goodrich all day. Why take a QB just to take one .


Really. How has being “DBU” worked out for us? Yet you’d pass on a 4 Star QB while that position remains unsettled. Brennan is no more a sure thing than B Harris was. When Foster is starting for Bama or the Ags, and Goodrich is leaving after 3 years of great DB play on another 8-4 LSU team, I don’t want any whining about how LSU can’t fix the QB position. I’m glad you’re not making our recruiting decisions, Foster know the spot is his if he wants it.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1971 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:56 pm to
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With all the new spread offenses you can never have enough cornerbacks


But you HAVE TO HAVE A QB FOR ANYTHING ELSE TO MATTER. I just don’t get this mindset. There is a reason Saban is after Foster, Bama is much more likely to sign a big time QB next season, and they have a star freshman coming back. Nick knows the value of that position and how quickly your depth can disappear.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26648 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:42 pm to
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Chase can be a game changer alongside Marshall. he’s a big physical receiver who actually knows the receiving position concepts. He’s a smart receiver along with the athletic freakish ability


I'm not understanding the dying need for Chase over the last couple of months. Before then he was an add, but barely anybody thought he was a "have to have" recruit. We already bring back a guy in Giles who blew up in a pass heavy offense in 2016. Marshall is an NFL WR waiting out his 3 year college stint. Davis is the most physically gifted WR on the roster. We have tons of WRs to choose from at LSU, and with the former NFL WR coach showing the guys how to play like a pro, I think we'll be perfectly fine.

Foster needs to be in the class. We need more high talented guys to compete for the starting job. It is THE premier position on the team, and it can greatly decide an okay season, and a championship season.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:04 pm to
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This is insane! Since when can LSU just “sign a QB next season”? Have you been following LSU football?


Yes, I blame a lot of the QB development on Les. Things are different now without empty promises. Let’s see how it plays out. I can create a list of the LSU QB’s they have signed the last ten years and their star rankings. A ton of 4 and 5 star players. We currently have two 4 star QBs that are sophomores. No need to hit the panic button on QBs.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12535 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:23 pm to
Are there any that we have a legit shot at in ‘19?
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:59 pm to
I think everyday gets that you have to have a qb but we have 3 and only need 1 per game. We have like 4 CBS and need 4 a game most weeks. Which need is more pressing for our style of play? CB and its clear. With the real possibility of only landing 1, maybe no if things fall wrong cb in the class you take any that want in. Jmo
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:12 pm to
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we have 3 and only need 1 per game

Are you sure we're still going to have 3 when the season rolls around?

We have more than 4 guys who can play corner too.

Both positions are equally thin to me. If Chase wasn't such a stud, the choice would be easy, but I really don't think we can pass on a local kid who's that talented.
Posted by cfmalloy
Member since Apr 2017
97 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:36 am to
LSU needs a second CB right now, immediate need, more than a depth QB.

LSU can use a series of high quality walk on QBs to compete for the third man up job (heck, Baker Mayfield proved a walk on can start, take you to the NCPs and win a Heisman), but unless Foster is a likely starter like the Daniels kid, LSU needs a starter capable quality CB more than a depth QB and it's even better if he can play WR at a high level also.

LSU lost 2 starting CBs early to the NFL who must be replaced. LSU almost always signs more than 3 DBs. This year LSU will sign, at most, only 3 DBs. And the 2019 class overall at CB is not as deep, quality-wise, as is the 2018 class. There will be more teams chasing fewer prospects, unlike this year unlike this year when LSU has turned away top10 DBs to this point.

The compliance department screwed this year's class up, big time.

LSU can also recruit it's existing QBs to all stay for at least 1 more year. They missed that opportunity already at CB, twice over.

LSU could also, possibly, recruit former LSU QB, Lindsey Scott, to return to LSU after a year of solid starter PT in JUCO and winning a JUCO NC. LSU has multiple options at QB, but only this one option to fill this spot on the NSD prospects signing grid, at CB.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 4:43 am
Posted by cfmalloy
Member since Apr 2017
97 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:56 am to

If it boils down to a choice between Goodrich and Chase, a CB and a WR, based on relative needs, you are absolutely correct.

But man this is a sad situation, that does not have to be, if the compliance department does it's job properly, effectively.

Truth be told, LSU could back count and take Surtain, Joseph, Goodrich, Chase, and Foster, and a couple more as well, like another OT from the likes of Dylan Wonnum, Richard Gouraige, Nicholas Petit-Frere or William Barnes, and/or could add a top tier DT like Michael Thompson or a top tier LB (which is also needed), or they could have taken Justin Watkins, Glean Beal, or take a chance on grades with Pooka, Joiner, or Michael Williams. But compliance has their heads in the wrong spot right now.
Posted by CL8100
Bayou
Member since Jan 2012
948 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:35 pm to
Every reason you said, i believe goodrich for same things but reversed. Need surtain, need goodrich, need Kelvin Joseph. That's all defense. Need those guys
Posted by Fisherchef Jeff
Ohio
Member since Dec 2014
110 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:51 am to
Unfortunately looks like we get both minus PS2. Hope not, big decision for LSNFL.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39358 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:31 pm to
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really hope you are joking that you’d rather lose chase for Goodrich.


You have serious reading comprehension problems. I said nothing of the sort
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Gunnel is committed to Texas AM and I'm sure Fisher is going to do everything to keep him. Why do people feel we are going to get him? If we don't get Foster this year there is a good chance we are going to wind up taking a couple long shot, Lindsey Scott, types next season just out of desperation. Seems we have to take Foster if we can this year.


I dont think we are going to find any Gatorade POY of the year this time, with 5000+ yds of production this late. The early signing period took of that.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 1:17 pm
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