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re: Don't understand why talk of signing more OL has stopped!

Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5532 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Are you like 5 years old? You're definitely not a grown arse man because real mean have something constructive to add to a post or they move on to another post.

GROW THE FREAK UP DUDE! YOU'RE ONE LONELY SICK PERSON IF ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WRITE SMARTASS COMMENTS ON POSTS ALL NIGHT!
Your OP is stupid as frick, and you follow it up with this gem.

Bravo. Bravo! Bravissimo!
Posted by izbella
Member since Dec 2019
35 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 1:00 pm to
False, we have just as much if not more talent currently as we did when we won the title and the offensive line was named the top unit in the country. They need coaching and an offseason to work together and get better. It would be great to sign 1-2 5 stars offensive lineman every year but it isn’t a requirement to have a top offensive line either. And yes juco recruits are there for a reason but apparently you have no idea what that is lol.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11979 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:28 pm to
Maybe you need to become a Georgia Bulldog fan. They seem to sign 5 star OL every year.
I'll respect Cregg and Orgeron until we start losing because of OL.
We seemed to handle Florida OK with our patchwork o line. Maybe they just needed a spring practice and a few games to become a team.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:31 pm to
It’s over for this year unless moko wants in and I don’t know if he’s a jr or soph.

In that case, we have a minimum of four leaving next year.


We need 4 and maybe five oline recruits next year for 2022.
Posted by dwright369
Member since Aug 2020
1357 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:03 pm to
I’d say we need to sign 5-6 OL recruits in 2022, dstone.

In a perfect world, I’d take 4-5 HS targets and one (1) transfer that can provide instant impact.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:26 pm to
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One question though: you mention you like what you've seen of Martinez. Are you basing that off of watching game(s) on TV, or do you have practice and coach/game cutups on Martinez?

Watching the games but I do have all recorded. It takes me an extra couple of hours to watch a game. I'll rerun plays quite a bit to see blocking/tackling/def schemes/individual effort/plays---you name it. (I'm fortunate to have the time and I don't start watching games till 45-60 min after start so I can FF thru commercials and halftime)
Martinez looks to me like he is comfortable mentally and the speed of the game isn't a factor to him. Like he knows his assignments and (like guys with experience) is focused on purpose/execution rather than the distractions of being on stage. Aggressive with no hesitation when the ball is snapped.
Obviously, a small sample size but intangibles like focus and ability to play at the speed of the game are solid factors that lead to relentless competence.
I believe Martinez has "it". Can't wait to find out.
Yep. I did it again. Way too long with way too much information.
TD Mensas---unite to slap down opinion or information that may generally amuse or---God forbid---promote open-minded discussion of LSU Sports!
Think big! 100 downvotes aren't going to click themselves!!!
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:31 pm to
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It would be great to sign 1-2 5 stars offensive lineman every year but it isn’t a requirement to have a top offensive line either

Solid points till this. Sheesh! How can you honestly say that?
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:51 pm to
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because they're playing JUCO for a reason

Kids who can play at the 4 year college level that are at JUCO's are there because of grades.
I'm sure your not having a shat on the rest of the kids at JUCO's.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Solid points till this. Sheesh! How can you honestly say that?
one joe burrow will make a Tiger fan think that all 3 stars is a good thing across the line.

Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5332 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:28 pm to
That’s so true, and some come from small HSs with poor records and add muscle and coaching when they get to JC. But we signed 2 JC OL for our Natty run, one was the #1 OL in JC , the other the #4 OG in JC the 65th overall player. BT don’t know where’s he at, the other DL was a 2nd round pick , started every game and was All-Rookie team. It’s a hard position to evaluate and I’m sure O and Gregg are doing everything they can to sign whatever OL can help this team win, not just throwing darts.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19062 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:49 pm to
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BT don’t know where’s he at


Bears Dev squad.
Posted by dwright369
Member since Aug 2020
1357 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:06 pm to
Damathe, thanks for sharing your in-depth analysis of Marlon Martinez. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I appreciate you sharing this insight.

Please don’t be shy to share more in the future (particularly on O-Line play, b/c I honestly can’t evaluate this aspect of the game for $hit). Thanks again, my friend!!!
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1988 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:10 am to
Agree with you on Martinez. Between him, hill, and Dumerville I think our oline class last cycle will end up being very solid.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1988 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:10 am to
Oh and the OP is damn retard.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:13 am to
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We also got the number 1 juco tacle 2 yrs ago and he was terrible


He was actually a contributor last year due to injuries and suspensions and did a good job.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:16 am to
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I’d say we need to sign 5-6 OL recruits in 2022, dstone.


Thankfully, there are 2 or 3 really good in-state guys in next year’s class. If we can sign all of them, it will put us ahead of the game there.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3369 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:30 am to
Or you could actually read the post you are responding to. They said multiple 5 stars every year aren’t necessary to have a top offensive line and that is 100% correct, it’s not even debatable. How many teams do you think get multiple 5 star offensive lineman every single year? How many teams do you think have multiple 5 star offensive lineman starting? It is way fewer than the amount of teams you would say have good offensive lines. Sure having an offensive line of all 5 stars would be the easiest way to be elite but it is not the only way and it’s not the most realistic way since nobody not even bama does that. Do you want all 3 stars absolutely not, you don’t even want to depend on multiple each class if you can help it. But 3 stars can develop into top offensive lineman. If you sign mostly 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars every couple of years and you take a few 3 stars when necessary you can absolutely have a top offensive line.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 8:42 am
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3369 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:40 am to
Because they were right what you highlighted is a fact, it’s not even an opinion. Go look at the top 10-15 graded offensive lines in the country and tell me how many started multiple 5 stars or majority 5 stars as you seem to be implying. Bama won’t even fit that description some of the years. Your aren’t gonna have a top offensive line without talented players but the expectations for a line made up primarily of 5 stars is unrealistic and not based in reality. If you are depth chart averages out to many 4 stars you have plenty of talent.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3369 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:52 am to
Oh and the false narrative that our Offensive line really wasn’t that good in 2019-20 it was just Burrow making them look better has been exposed by the fact that 40% of that starting offensive line made the NFL All Rookie Team. A 3rd starting member of that line was drafted and started a game as a rookie before being injured and the last 2 remaining starters are projected draft picks this year. You also have a backup who has made an nfl roster. So we can go ahead and stop parroting that nonsense. The idea that they were some untalented bunch that JB covered for has been shown to be a hilariously bad take.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:27 am to
I'm not saying all JUCO players are bad, but you can't survive off of JUCO players. You have to sign top level OL consistently if you want to compete at the highest level and I think that's where LSU is coming up short.
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