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re: Damn, the effect Gunner Keil decommitment results in a 13-14 point ranking drop
Posted on 1/19/12 at 3:35 pm to Frankie Knuckles
Posted on 1/19/12 at 3:35 pm to Frankie Knuckles
I am a big Coach Miles supporter. It wasnt always that way but i have been the last 2 or 3 years.
I will say this....its a shame but perception is reality and even though I dont think Miles gets a fair shake as a great coach......next years team performance will be critical. (And thats a shame considering he won 11 and then 13)
If we dont have a top 3 or 4 class next year I am fairly sure it will start to show on the field in 2013.
I will say this....its a shame but perception is reality and even though I dont think Miles gets a fair shake as a great coach......next years team performance will be critical. (And thats a shame considering he won 11 and then 13)
If we dont have a top 3 or 4 class next year I am fairly sure it will start to show on the field in 2013.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/19/12 at 3:37 pm to Section225
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247 is the best in the business right now and they are just starting off.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:03 pm to purpledrankk
most rankings are accurate, but its judge on what they did in high school, and measurables. The thing is players can grow and become better players with the college coaches and if they have maxed your potential or if you don't work hard and challenge yourself
Posted on 1/19/12 at 7:06 pm to deuce985
1st let me state that I believe John Thomas is a better prospect than Dillon Gordon. That said how Gordon goes from a top 250 guy,4* and ahead of Thomas to a 3* and below Thomas when Thomas was out all year with an injury is completely unreal to me. What the hell happened for Perroni(more on him later) to drop him that far? I don't get it at all. Gordon's film shows exactly what he is. A blocking TE, with good hands and better athletic ability than you'd think. Imo a high 3* so I have no argument with where's ranked all in all just a question as to how the ranking came about based on the earlier rankings.
Fiest is another story.Why have him ranked as a DE all year when it was obvious that he wasn't going to play DE in college. It hasn't been some debate or secret. Rivals(Perroni) knew that already but is just now evaluating Fiest as a LB prospect? It makes no sense. I read every Rivals chat just to see the hypocritical stances and reasons they give for their newest rankings. Most of it is completely laughable. Fiest was playing true LB for the 1st time at the UA game so it wasn't completely unexpected that he wouldn't look natural doing so. The people I trust who saw him that week were impressed with how he looked especially considering he is new to the position. His speed is good and he moves well laterally. From his film you can see that he will stick his head in and make a tackle. Just a bogus excuse by Rivals.
That Perroni guy is a hack. He does a poor job evaluating LA talent and rarely even goes to see the kids in person. He is a Texas guy that focuses purely on those kids. Trust nothing he says about LA kids.Nothing.
247 is young in it's development but is the best place for LA rankings. Barton Simmons has always been very good at getting to LA to scout kids and always makes a point to make sure the kids get their due. You don't have to agree with their top 247 list but just know that our LA kids will get their just due on that site. Other than Sonny and Mike Coppage,who's living is based on evaluating LA kids, Barton is the best in the business at properly evaluating LA kids. He is a national analyst and carries weight over there and will miss on some kids because he has other duties but at least he makes a concerted effort to get the LA kids their just desserts.
Fiest is another story.Why have him ranked as a DE all year when it was obvious that he wasn't going to play DE in college. It hasn't been some debate or secret. Rivals(Perroni) knew that already but is just now evaluating Fiest as a LB prospect? It makes no sense. I read every Rivals chat just to see the hypocritical stances and reasons they give for their newest rankings. Most of it is completely laughable. Fiest was playing true LB for the 1st time at the UA game so it wasn't completely unexpected that he wouldn't look natural doing so. The people I trust who saw him that week were impressed with how he looked especially considering he is new to the position. His speed is good and he moves well laterally. From his film you can see that he will stick his head in and make a tackle. Just a bogus excuse by Rivals.
That Perroni guy is a hack. He does a poor job evaluating LA talent and rarely even goes to see the kids in person. He is a Texas guy that focuses purely on those kids. Trust nothing he says about LA kids.Nothing.
247 is young in it's development but is the best place for LA rankings. Barton Simmons has always been very good at getting to LA to scout kids and always makes a point to make sure the kids get their due. You don't have to agree with their top 247 list but just know that our LA kids will get their just due on that site. Other than Sonny and Mike Coppage,who's living is based on evaluating LA kids, Barton is the best in the business at properly evaluating LA kids. He is a national analyst and carries weight over there and will miss on some kids because he has other duties but at least he makes a concerted effort to get the LA kids their just desserts.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 7:06 pm to ItsThatDude12
TOp 5 last year.
Saban hits top every year not in the mid teens. Want to stay up with the best, you better keep recruiting with the best.
Nobody said he sucked or is overpaid but the suggestion(s) that Miles has a Top 5 recruiting class every year is fantasy
Saban hits top every year not in the mid teens. Want to stay up with the best, you better keep recruiting with the best.
Nobody said he sucked or is overpaid but the suggestion(s) that Miles has a Top 5 recruiting class every year is fantasy
Posted on 1/19/12 at 7:24 pm to Paulu
Stars is a bunch of BS, Morris C is a proven fact of that, Everyone was asking why are we signing him at the time and I believe he was a three star, I could be wrong, and look at the product he turned out to be.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:52 pm to LancePwll
Stars is bullshite to a certain extent...until you get classes like Bama. Loaded with bluechip prospects. Saban is now putting at least 3 1st round picks in the NFL every year. Do you think all star ratings are overrated? He may put a record amount of players in the 1st round this year and people still don't think elite blue chip players is warranted? They're ranked high for a reason.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:53 pm to Paulu
You're making his point for him. Saban has had #1 classes and top 3 classes for the last few years and LSU has been below that during that time period. Yet somehow during that period our record against Bama is 3-3 with only 1 game not being competitive. It was just unfortunate for us that it was the National Championship game. We are keeping up with Bama just fine with the kids we get. Only 22 players are on the field for each play and I'll take our 11 in that matchup. #1 recruiting classes are good for fans and media.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 10:23 pm to lsufanva
Depends on the site. Bama was 8 on scout last year. It's all subjective and the line from 1 to 10 is small if anything. Recruiting is just part of the equation along with development and scheme. Top 10 gives you the talent to develop and scheme around. The most consistent rankings for LSU fans should be scout then 247 because of what Lsufanva said. Rivals is becoming a joke like Espn.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:16 am to Section225
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Rivals is a joke .... 247 is the best in the business right now and they are just starting off.
Nice marketing attempt. I saw who 247 hired and Folse has lesss credibility than Casey Anthony.
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