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Coaching Changes = Recruiting Uncertainty

Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:16 pm
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:16 pm
This happens every year. Players commit to play for a coach as much as they do to play for a school.

Everything will sort itself out. If however, you feel the need to jump off of a bridge, by my count there are at least eight between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:20 pm to
The people freaking out just haven't been following recruiting long. For us to have the number 4 class in the country after the shite show of a season we just had is INCREDIBLE.

Not to mention we may bring in 2 more 5 star recruits by the end of this class. Stop worrying about who Bama gets and be excited about the guys LSU gets. The class we have right now is ELITE and people are losing their minds. It's ridiculous.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:25 pm to
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For us to have the number 4 class in the country after the shite show of a season we just had is INCREDIBLE.


It's not incredible losing committments from Moses, narcissen and brennan.
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The people freaking out just haven't been following recruiting long.


Ove been following recruiting since Kevin faulk and i know that instead of our staff going all out after recruits that havent made decisions yet we have to back track and get these players back in the fold. Youre lying to yourself if you think losing 3 elite recruits this close to nsd is just the norm.
Posted by Jonburris81
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
107 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:31 pm to
Man do you guys realize that the main reason why Bama has beaten us is because, they win on the field as well on National Signing day. You have to look at recruiting. That is what separating us and them right now. Well check that having a great coach does as well, but you have to look at that. When Alabama starts pulling the elite players out of the state you have to look at it. They could possible land 4 big prospects out of the state 4. Difference makers man. Don't you guys get it. Wake you if you feel this doesn't mean anything.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32134 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:31 pm to
It is the new norm. There's a guy who is the head coach over in Tuscaloosa who has rewritten (or bent/broken) the rules.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:33 pm to
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is the new norm. There's a guy who is the head coach over in Tuscaloosa who has rewritten (or bent/broken) the rules.


what?
Saban is getting great recruits. Not losing 3 of them with 2 months to NSD.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85090 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:35 pm to
Then why did we retain O?

He sold Alleva on his ability to recruit and keep the current class.

If we had hired someone else, I would agree with you, but not with O. This was one of his biggest attributes.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:35 pm to
If you have a top 5 class in the country you can beat anybody. Of course it bothers me that Bama got the 2 linebackers. But what's the point of constantly bitching about it? 99.9% of other schools in the country would kill to have a number 4 recruiting class in the country. And yall act like Lowell and Myles are gone. I personally think they both end up at LSU. That's where they want to be. Oh and we're leading for the number 1 defensive tackle in the country and the number 1 runningback in the country.

Yeah our recruiting is just falling off..
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:36 pm to
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Man do you guys realize that the main reason why Bama has beaten us is because, they win on the field as well on National Signing day. You have to look at recruiting. That is what separating us and them right now. Well check that having a great coach does as well, but you have to look at that. When Alabama starts pulling the elite players out of the state you have to look at it. They could possible land 4 big prospects out of the state 4. Difference makers man. Don't you guys get it. Wake you if you feel this doesn't mean anything.


What it is is they have to make excuses for O. They have to post that losing 3 of our most important recruits just 2 months before nsd is something that always happens.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:37 pm to
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Man do you guys realize that the main reason why Bama has beaten us is because, they win on the field as well on National Signing day


Wrong. Bama has beaten us 6 times in a row because of coaching. If you think it's because we had an average of the number 3 class and they had the number 1 class you're delusional.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:38 pm to
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. I personally think they both end up at LSU.


It all couldve been avoided if O doesnt publicly offer Tua. Now instead of devoting all our resources and time into getting recruits that havent made a decision,we have to not only back track and TRY to get these guys back into the fold,WE ALSO have put resources into backup plans at the qb position. This is a huge cluster frick that couldve been easily avoided.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:39 pm to
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What it is is they have to make excuses for O. They have to post that losing 3 of our most important recruits just 2 months before nsd is something that always happens.


I HATED the Orgeron hire. fricking despised it. But who are the 3 most important recruits that we lost? Moses was gone when Miles was fired. Narcisse is committed and Brennan wants to be here more than anybody. Once we sign an OC all this will get ironed out.

You're just one of those people that dwell on bad news man.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:40 pm to
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Wrong. Bama has beaten us 6 times in a row because of coaching


bullshite. Bama's 2016 draft class was almost as big as our last 2 draft classes combined.
This year bama has 6 players with 1st round draft grades.

Youre lying to yourself if you believe the difference between lsu and bama is just coaching. We have seen Saban when he doesnt have a talent advantage.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:42 pm to
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But who are the 3 most important recruits that we lost?


Moses,brennan and narcisse. Recruits become more important when you have less of that position targeted or committed. The moment we lost those 2 qbs, they became extremely important.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 6:43 pm
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:42 pm to
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This is a huge cluster frick that couldve been easily avoided.



I agree. Right when O said he wanted a DT qb in the press conference I knew he fricked up. But you're acting like Brennan and Narcisse are gone. And you're acting like the entire staff has to drop everything they're doing and drive to these guys homes everyday. Brennan wants to be here. Narcisse wants to be here. We have the number 4 class in the country at the moment and are leading for the number 1 DT and the number 1 RB.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:43 pm to
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Saban is getting great recruits. Not losing 3 of them with 2 months to NSD.


He's had 3 de-commits in the past couple of months. Moses de-committed from LSU before the season started. Technically Lowell is the only de-commit since O was named.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:43 pm to
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You're just one of those people that dwell on bad news man.



Na. Im just one of those people that knows how recruiting works and how bad it is to lose 2 qbs with just 2 months left before nsd.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:44 pm to
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Youre lying to yourself if you believe the difference between lsu and bama is just coaching.


I didn't say the difference between LSU and Bama is coaching. I said coaching is the main difference. And the reason Bama had all those players drafted last year and we didn't is because a lot of our juniors stayed.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27914 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:45 pm to
Well o was on staff so unless they tied to cam then I don't see the logic.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:45 pm to
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's had 3 de-commits in the past couple of months. Moses de-committed from LSU before the season started. Technically Lowell is on the only de-commit since O was named.



Brennan opened up his recruiting. Thats the same as decommitting without saying you decommitted. We still have spemd time and resources to get him back into the fold. Thats the same as decommitting.
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