re: Bo Bordelon up to a solid 280lbs

Ausberry has too high of a profile. He can pretty much go anywhere he wants to. I dont think they will do that to him. It's a respect thing.


As for Kicker, you need one every 3-4 years. I dont think that means York is an early NFL draft entrant.

He's going to destroy some kids in small school ball this year.

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He isnt sticking around for 5 years

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I never said he was. I just said he has 3 more years to play. I fully expect at least another year. LSU wins some hardware, who knows, that might change.

Bringing a Kicker in this year means nothing. It's about that time to add another one in the program anyway. Atkins may or may not stick around for a 5th year. York may be gone after 22'. You dont really want to throw a Freshman in there. You want a guy with a year or 2 in the program.


Which, as we circle back, is even more reason why they could gray shirt the kid this year.

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What history is there here of a 3-year starter at kicker who started as a freshman, is #1 on the draft boards after his junior season potentially and will be a graduate.

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Im not even going to bother looking that up but it probably is not as rare as you think it is.

Do you think every Kicker in history only becomes good his 4th year in school?

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Bringing a Kicker in this year means nothing.

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You cant be this naive. Literally the only reason to bring one in is because we feel we may need one. It's not like they just randomly go out and offer kickers whenever. There was a clear plan to bring one in this year - because of York being so high on draft boards there being potential he might not stick around past 2021. This is a calculated plan here, not a "well we kind of liked this guy so we offered him". Heck, Dibert wasnt even their top kicker they wanted originally, yet we're still taking him. If they felt there was very little risk of losing York, they wouldnt have gone out and got a scholarship kicker as there's no real need to. We would just wait another year rather than definitely have 2 kickers against the scholarship cap. The object of special teams schollies is to not always have 2 punters, kickers and long snappers each (6 total) against our hard scholarship cap.

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You dont really want to throw a Freshman in there. You want a guy with a year or 2 in the program.

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Bruh, this is a kicker we're talking about here who is on scholarship. There's not much "development" needed there, they can either kick or not, especially if we're handing out a valuable scholarship spot to them right away. Make no mistake, if York leaves after this season they fully expect Dibert ready to go in 2022 and is the reason why they going out NOW to get a guy and not leave it in the hands of a walk on potentially.

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Im not even going to bother looking that up but it probably is not as rare as you think it is.

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So much for the "but history" comment then

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I don’t personally. I think his last name and his high school QB are the reason he has a scholarship.

If his last name was something like Trahan and he went to somewhere like Crowley High.. he would be playing at ULL, not LSU.

I hope he comes in without taking a scholarship from someone more deserving.

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When coach O gets up in the morning guess he should check in with you to get your advice on who and who not to recruit. You seem to know a lot about Bordelon. Are you related? Are you on the team with him? How much video and in person evaluation have you done with him?

Just asking

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Not sure why you think it's almost an impossibility it may happen for York, who will be a 3 year starter, just like those 2 guys, and even have his degree anyways...so if he's top kicker on the board and teams are saying we'll draft you 5th-7th round range, there's not much reason to stick around for York.

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Because the incentive is next to nothing. They don't get paid anything. College is fun.

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There's not much "development" needed there, they can either kick or not,

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Sure there is. Kickers need an adjustment period. York is an outlier as a freshman sensation. And while Les over-recruited the position, Dibert playing as a sophomore would be much more ideal for the program.


Edit: Im not going to hijack this thread anymore about a kicker

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They take a kicker every 3-4 years snd they have done so for as long as I’ve followed recruiting.

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Again, the aim is to not always ensure we have 2 kickers, 2 punters and 2 long snappers on scholarship often as that hurts other positions when oyu have so many special teamers on scholarship. There isnt a huge need to get a kicker right now if they feel like York is definitely sticking around through 2022. They feel like York may leave, ergo we felt right now was definitely the time to get a kicker so we dont potentially get caught with our pants down.

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Well, we know 2 guys in 20 years have declared early at K.

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2 in the past 6 years, 10-20 years ago is irrelevant. In the 2010 draft a whopping 53 players declared with eligibility remaining. A year before that it was 46 players declared early. In 2021, 128 players declared early, which was up from 115 in the 2020 draft. So the landscape has most assuredly changed, and changed a lot, to the point twice as many players from 10 or so years ago are declaring compared to now. Like Aguayo was the first kicker to declare early when he did it in over 15 years, and then McPhearson did it and was drafted himself this year as well. So again, more common.

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You seem to think York is the first K to ever develop early into a pro prospect. I can’t really laugh hard enough. I have no reason to do research on that.

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You seem to think 10-20 years ago is relevant to now. Again, look at the trend and the numbers above. More guys are declaring early, even for a kicker nowadays, 2 in the last 6 drafts, both with similar trajectories so far that York is on. I dont even know if they both will have graduated like York too, which is another reason York might not come back since he'll have his degree.

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I’d love to bet you on this. Do you have $500 to spare? We could do more if you’d like since you seem so sure

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I said multiple times nothing is for sure, just said the reason we got a kicker is we feel York may be leaving and recent trends have shown that can be the case now at kicker especially with York #1 on some draft boards right now entering the season. Not sure why you have to go dumb on something like this. Anything can happen, but acting like it's an impossibility is not the way to go about it, the coaches certainly arent treating it that way.

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Because the incentive is next to nothing. They don't get paid anything. College is fun.

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The incentive is signing a multi year multi-million dollar contract a year earlier with a nice six figure bonus to start out. Come on man

McPhearson just signed a 4 year deal worth almost $4M and got almost $400k up front.

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McPhearson just signed a 4 year deal worth almost $4M and got almost $400k up front.

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