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re: BAMA oversigns each year, gets the publicity and then...
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:16 pm to emry123
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:16 pm to emry123
On ESPNU one of the announcers was saying that although Bama has a good looking class it all depends on how many actually qualify. At least someone sees what Satan is doing. 
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Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:19 pm to emry123
What you dont understand is shula signed a bunch of greyshirts when have four guys that are seniors next year that will be on campus for there sixth year. Hell they have already got there degree. Three will be gone. Then we have a buch of red shirt seniors who will graduate before the season. Some may give up ball some may go to Jacksonville stare. Some times people dont know what they are talking about. Then that does not count medicals,grades, or whatever. I mean bama never signed 37 like ole piss. Complain all you want have not one player or high school coach complain. JMO
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:31 pm to bamalee
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have not one player or high school coach complain. JMO
what did he say?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:40 pm to emry123
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reality sets in when the numbers are actually added up...this is such a bunch of bs...does this not piss off people around the country...why is bama not exposed for what they are doing?
Honestly I think Saban is just trying to load up on as much talent as possible and push out some of the unproductive guys.
He gambled last year and guessed right. He lost 2 to MLB, 2 to Juco, 2 counted to 07, 1 to injury, 1 Bryant Scholly, and the numbers worked out to under 25.
This year with having 8 spots for 27 players. I'm guessing we lose at least 4 or 5 to grades. Upchurch will probably be gone due to injury. I know we gave 3 schollys to walkons but I don't know if those factor. They say Grant will probably transfer. I imagine he'll have to basically force out 7 to 10 guys that will never see the field.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:48 pm to HueyP
You guys are a bunch of whiney-arse crybabies. Bama signed 27. You've said yourself that several of them won't qualify. What are you bitching about? LSU has signed, what 25 or 26?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:52 pm to Teague
LSU didn't oversign by around 15 scholarships. LSU didn't sign 59 fricking players in 2 years.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:54 pm to JJ27
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LSU didn't oversign by around 15 scholarships. LSU didn't sign 59 fricking players in 2 years.
This is true.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:56 pm to JJ27
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LSU didn't oversign by around 15 scholarships. LSU didn't sign 59 fricking players in 2 years.
Dude, we're all playing by the same rules. Les could have signed a bunch of players that may or may not qualify, or some MLB players too.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:57 pm to shoelessjoe
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On ESPNU one of the announcers was saying that although Bama has a good looking class it all depends on how many actually qualify. At least someone sees what Satan is doing.
I saw the number of Freshmen he played last year. There were major contributors from the 08 class. I don't care what the recruiting weenies say or how many didn't make campus... I'm really more worried if the guys that make it to campus have an impact like some of our guys did last year.
Recruiting rankings don't win games. Talent and coaching are the most important thing. LSU is already loaded with talent and more is coming in. Their coaching staff looks to be improved. Bama is starting to become loaded with talent but they've had a lot of catching up to do. They also have a good coaching staff.
I think the slap fighting is ok but if you look at LSU, Bama, Florida, and Georgia... you have 4 really talented teams that picked up great classes. The number signed, etc can effect the rankings but all 4 schools took in great talent. Some of the other schools in the SEC did pretty damn well too. I don't see too many down years in the SEC in the near future.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:05 pm to arwicklu
shite look at ole miss signing 37 haha
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:16 pm to JJ27
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LSU didn't oversign by around 15 scholarships. LSU didn't sign 59 fricking players in 2 years.
But LSU and Bama are both under the 25/85 rule. It isn't like Bama started with as much talent as LSU did 2 years ago. When Saban got to Bama the only thing that didn't suck was the O-line. He's oversigning in order to make sure he gets his 25. Guys who aren't productive, get arrested, deal drugs, get injured, etc. get pushed out to make room for more talented younger players.
I know it sucks to push players out because you make it obvious that they'll never see the field however when you have a giant rebuilding job sometimes thats what has to happen. Last year not one Alabama player went in the NFL draft while some tiny schools had multiple. You can't win in the SEC like that.
Recruiting rankings are fun. We can all make t-shirts and run around like douche nozzles but the guy is just trying to bring in talent at this point. A recruiting ranking doesn't mean shite without wins... ask Charlie Weis.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:17 pm to TigerMan02
It will only start biting him in the butt when every other coach in the SEc starts pointing out to players that scholarships are officially one year even though most programs automatically honor them for 4 or 5 years. That gives Saban every chance in the world to make nonstarters ship out whenever he needs them to. Eventually high school coaches will start telling most of their players to find a more stable situation because even for three stars there are plenty to choose from.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:20 pm to emry123
I think this could really be used to other schools' advantage in the recruiting process. Why not use it to explain to recruits that even if offered they may or may not have a scholarship when it comes down to it. I think it's a ploy that will only work for a couple years and then it'll start backfiring on him. You know what they say about what goes around!
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:22 pm to SoGaFan
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It will only start biting him in the butt when every other coach in the SEc starts pointing out to players that scholarships are officially one year even though most programs automatically honor them for 4 or 5 years. That gives Saban every chance in the world to make nonstarters ship out whenever he needs them to. Eventually high school coaches will start telling most of their players to find a more stable situation because even for three stars there are plenty to choose from.
To this point it's hard to make that argument because Saban is basically just not playing the Shula recruits that aren't talented enough or don't fit into his system. They've had a chance to get PT but they can't beat the better players. Guys like Terry Grant aren't bad players but he certainly isn't a Saban style running back.
I've heard of very little drama with his recruits so far... but we'll see how that goes.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:24 pm to LSU NO Tigah
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I think this could really be used to other schools' advantage in the recruiting process. Why not use it to explain to recruits that even if offered they may or may not have a scholarship when it comes down to it. I think it's a ploy that will only work for a couple years and then it'll start backfiring on him. You know what they say about what goes around!
He isn't making anyone leave. There are guys just burried on the depth chart with no hope of ever playing. In the end it's their choice if they want to play college football.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:25 pm to arwicklu
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He isn't making anyone leave. There are guys just burried on the depth chart with no hope of ever playing. In the end it's their choice if they want to play college football.
please tell me you arent this fricking naive
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:26 pm to SoGaFan
Every coach and team get rid of players and yes that is also LSU. RP,DO,and RD. Kids fail,get hurt, leave for PT, get over it man. What do you think houston nutt is going to do at Ole miss 37 players.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:27 pm to bamalee
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Every coach and team get rid of players and yes that is also LSU
not to the extent of alabama
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:27 pm to bamalee
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What do you think houston nutt is going to do at Ole miss 37 players.
Tryouts?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:28 pm to DBG
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please tell me you arent this fricking naive
There are guys that will sit the pine for 4 years under him. Getting pushed out and having a scholarship revoked are different things.
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