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24/7 and its ranking of LSU recruits this season
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:21 pm
While recruiting conspiracies can get a bit absurd, the discrepancy between 24/7 and all of the other major sites this year is really something else. There is no way that someone can convince me that something fishy isn't going on at 24/7.
It isn't based on position. It isn't based on state. These guys have nothing in common other than being LSU signees or verbal commitments.
12 guys are significantly lower on 24/7 than the national composite. On the flip side, 1 guy is higher on 24/7 by a big margin compared to the national composite. There is no way that is statistically possible on its own, especially because the composite consists of multiple different sites.
Comparing the composite rankings (which include 24/7 rankings) and 24/7's own rankings shows the following drop-offs for these recruits. If you factor out the 24/7 rankings, of course, it's an even greater drop between what everyone else thinks and what 24/7 thinks
At this point, I believe the rankings have been finalized for everyone. I may be wrong on that, but it's at least finalized for the top 300.
Dwight McGlothern: Composite ranking is 278, 24/7 is 696. A discrepancy of 418 spots.
Max Johnson : Composite ranking is 251, 24/7 is 618. A difference of 367 spots.
Koy Moore: Composite is 297, 24/7 is 606. A difference of 306 spots.
TJ Finley: Composite is 500. 24/7 is 765. A difference of 265 spots.
Kole Taylor: Composite is 419. 24/7 is 535. 116 spot discrepancy
Marlon Martinez: Composite is 373. 24/7 is 470. 97 spot discrepancy.
Antoine Sampah: Composite is 96, 24/7 is 189. 93 spot discrepancy.
Marcus Dumervil: Composite is 108, 24/7 is 192. 84 spot discrepancy.
Eric Taylor: Composite is 268, 24/7 is 349. 81 spot discrepancy.
Josh White: Composite is 141, 24/7 is 213. 73 spot discrepancy.
Xavier Hill: Composite is 483. 24/7 is 549. 66 spot discrepancy.
Philip Webb: Composite is 56, 24/7 is 110. 54 spot discrepancy
I'm not including him because the discrepancy is smaller, but Kevontre Bradford: Composite is 129, 24/7 is 158. 29 spot discrepancy.
How many of our guys have a dramatically higher ranking on 24/7 compared to their composite?
One person, Cam'Ron Jackson who is 649 on composite and 443 on 24/7. An improvement of 206 spots.
Four guys have higher 24/7 rankings by a small amount. Alex Adams is 38 spots higher on 24/7. BJ Ojulari is 32 spots higher on 24/7 than the composite. Guillory is 27 spots higher on 24/7.
Toles, Ricks, Gilbert, Roy are all essentially the same although each are a little lower on 24/7.
Ali Gaye is the the same in the opposite direction nominally higher on 24/7. Same with Boutte.
It isn't based on position. It isn't based on state. These guys have nothing in common other than being LSU signees or verbal commitments.
12 guys are significantly lower on 24/7 than the national composite. On the flip side, 1 guy is higher on 24/7 by a big margin compared to the national composite. There is no way that is statistically possible on its own, especially because the composite consists of multiple different sites.
Comparing the composite rankings (which include 24/7 rankings) and 24/7's own rankings shows the following drop-offs for these recruits. If you factor out the 24/7 rankings, of course, it's an even greater drop between what everyone else thinks and what 24/7 thinks
At this point, I believe the rankings have been finalized for everyone. I may be wrong on that, but it's at least finalized for the top 300.
Dwight McGlothern: Composite ranking is 278, 24/7 is 696. A discrepancy of 418 spots.
Max Johnson : Composite ranking is 251, 24/7 is 618. A difference of 367 spots.
Koy Moore: Composite is 297, 24/7 is 606. A difference of 306 spots.
TJ Finley: Composite is 500. 24/7 is 765. A difference of 265 spots.
Kole Taylor: Composite is 419. 24/7 is 535. 116 spot discrepancy
Marlon Martinez: Composite is 373. 24/7 is 470. 97 spot discrepancy.
Antoine Sampah: Composite is 96, 24/7 is 189. 93 spot discrepancy.
Marcus Dumervil: Composite is 108, 24/7 is 192. 84 spot discrepancy.
Eric Taylor: Composite is 268, 24/7 is 349. 81 spot discrepancy.
Josh White: Composite is 141, 24/7 is 213. 73 spot discrepancy.
Xavier Hill: Composite is 483. 24/7 is 549. 66 spot discrepancy.
Philip Webb: Composite is 56, 24/7 is 110. 54 spot discrepancy
I'm not including him because the discrepancy is smaller, but Kevontre Bradford: Composite is 129, 24/7 is 158. 29 spot discrepancy.
How many of our guys have a dramatically higher ranking on 24/7 compared to their composite?
One person, Cam'Ron Jackson who is 649 on composite and 443 on 24/7. An improvement of 206 spots.
Four guys have higher 24/7 rankings by a small amount. Alex Adams is 38 spots higher on 24/7. BJ Ojulari is 32 spots higher on 24/7 than the composite. Guillory is 27 spots higher on 24/7.
Toles, Ricks, Gilbert, Roy are all essentially the same although each are a little lower on 24/7.
Ali Gaye is the the same in the opposite direction nominally higher on 24/7. Same with Boutte.
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:32 pm to Keys Open Doors
247 hasn’t updated the non top 247 players lmfao and there’s no rankings conspiracies they rank our players how they rank our players, and most of the rankings for our guys are accurate
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:36 pm to Keys Open Doors
Map this out for the big programs. And report back the teams they’re fudging higher on 247 than what is listed on 247 composite.
Might win an investigative journalism award on Recruiting Board for it.
Might win an investigative journalism award on Recruiting Board for it.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:38 pm to LSUTigers778
How long is it going to take them to rank the non top 247? Signing day is on Wednesday, and they had their rankings for everyone else by Tuesday. They're cutting it insanely close.
Let's look at the top 247 then, assuming what you said is true.
Antoine Sampah: Composite is 96, 24/7 is 189. 93 spot discrepancy.
Marcus Dumervil: Composite is 108, 24/7 is 192. 84 spot discrepancy.
Eric Taylor: Composite is 268, 24/7 is 349. 81 spot discrepancy.
Josh White: Composite is 141, 24/7 is 213. 73 spot discrepancy.
Philip Webb: Composite is 56, 24/7 is 110. 54 spot discrepancy.
Not one guy going the other way.
12:1 if they are done.
5:0 if they haven't updated yet, and plenty of guys would have to be their highest risers of all time to not make it 10:1 or worse.
Let's look at the top 247 then, assuming what you said is true.
Antoine Sampah: Composite is 96, 24/7 is 189. 93 spot discrepancy.
Marcus Dumervil: Composite is 108, 24/7 is 192. 84 spot discrepancy.
Eric Taylor: Composite is 268, 24/7 is 349. 81 spot discrepancy.
Josh White: Composite is 141, 24/7 is 213. 73 spot discrepancy.
Philip Webb: Composite is 56, 24/7 is 110. 54 spot discrepancy.
Not one guy going the other way.
12:1 if they are done.
5:0 if they haven't updated yet, and plenty of guys would have to be their highest risers of all time to not make it 10:1 or worse.
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:40 pm to crazyLSUfan
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Might win an investigative journalism award on Recruiting Board for it.
It would be the center piece of my mantle
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:40 pm to Keys Open Doors
Really I think they are too busy positioning their love schools and ignore others including LSU.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:41 pm to Keys Open Doors
Have you considered a hobby?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:43 pm to Skeezer
It took me about 15-20 minutes to do this, man.
I'd rather write one detailed post that actually has information instead of 30 shite posts.
I'd rather write one detailed post that actually has information instead of 30 shite posts.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:44 pm to Keys Open Doors
That is a little strange, curious how other schools compare.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 2:44 pm to Keys Open Doors
Just for conspiracy guys like me could you do this with Alabama recruits real quick?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:02 pm to HTX_LSU
Sure, I just looked. The Bama stuff doesn't look insanely one-sided.
If we count top 247 recruits only, their JUCO is in the same spot, 11 are better off and 6 are worse off.
If we include everyone, 13 are better off, 11 are worse off, and one is the same. This is what a normal cluster would look like.
For LSU, excluding Lorando Johnson. 6 are better, 17 are worse, and that isn't going into the extent that things are off (our guys who are doing better are generally +5-10, while the guys doing worse are much worse off).
With just top 247 guys, 2 of 12 are doing better on the site.
If we count top 247 recruits only, their JUCO is in the same spot, 11 are better off and 6 are worse off.
If we include everyone, 13 are better off, 11 are worse off, and one is the same. This is what a normal cluster would look like.
For LSU, excluding Lorando Johnson. 6 are better, 17 are worse, and that isn't going into the extent that things are off (our guys who are doing better are generally +5-10, while the guys doing worse are much worse off).
With just top 247 guys, 2 of 12 are doing better on the site.
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:24 pm to Skeezer
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 8:12 am
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:37 pm to LSUTigers778
quote:
247 hasn’t updated the non top 247 players lmfao and there’s no rankings conspiracies they rank our players how they rank our players, and most of the rankings for our guys are accurate
I'm calling bullshite on all of that. Obviously, you don't keep with recruiting AT ALL! 2 weeks ago, McGlothern on 247 only was ranked 666...then 1 week ago, he was ranked 689...now he is ranked 697. So yeah, 247 has been updating the hell out of all their prospects even the ones way, way out of the top 247. And nnnnoooo, 247 rankings of LSU signees/commits are nonsense. If you weren't so lazy as to actually take the time to view hightlights, you would know you were wrong. Or maybe you are just damn incompetent at talent evaluation. But your entire post was utterly FALSE!
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:42 pm to crazyLSUfan
247 Composite Top 10
1 Georgia 311.44
2 Alabama 310.93
3 Clemson 309.73
4 LSU 300.54
5 Ohio State 295.08
6 Texas A&M 283.20
7 Auburn 274.22
8 Florida 272.62
9 Oklahoma 259.64
10 Michigan 257.74
247 Class Scores for Composite Top 10
1 Alabama 307.20
2 Clemson 301.13
3 Georgia 295.15
4 Ohio State 290.34
5 LSU 285.73
6 Texas A&M 278.36
7 Florida 270.82
8 Auburn 267.44
9 Oklahoma 260.06
12 Michigan 256.06
Difference:
Georgia -16.1
Alabama -3.73
Clemson -8.6
LSU -14.81
Ohio State -4.74
aTm -4.84
Auburn -6.78
Florida -1.8
Oklahomo -.42
Michigan -1.68
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!
1 Georgia 311.44
2 Alabama 310.93
3 Clemson 309.73
4 LSU 300.54
5 Ohio State 295.08
6 Texas A&M 283.20
7 Auburn 274.22
8 Florida 272.62
9 Oklahoma 259.64
10 Michigan 257.74
247 Class Scores for Composite Top 10
1 Alabama 307.20
2 Clemson 301.13
3 Georgia 295.15
4 Ohio State 290.34
5 LSU 285.73
6 Texas A&M 278.36
7 Florida 270.82
8 Auburn 267.44
9 Oklahoma 260.06
12 Michigan 256.06
Difference:
Georgia -16.1
Alabama -3.73
Clemson -8.6
LSU -14.81
Ohio State -4.74
aTm -4.84
Auburn -6.78
Florida -1.8
Oklahomo -.42
Michigan -1.68
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:54 pm to LSUTiger2020
quote:
I'm calling bullshite on all of that. Obviously, you don't keep with recruiting AT ALL! 2 weeks ago, McGlothern on 247 only was ranked 666...then 1 week ago, he was ranked 689...now he is ranked 697. So yeah, 247 has been updating the hell out of all their prospects even the ones way, way out of the top 247. And nnnnoooo, 247 rankings of LSU signees/commits are nonsense. If you weren't so lazy as to actually take the time to view hightlights, you would know you were wrong. Or maybe you are just damn incompetent at talent evaluation. But your entire post was utterly FALSE!
247 is updating the non top 247 players at different so they haven’t updated McGlothern but they have updated others so until they update him his ranking will fall
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:56 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:
How long is it going to take them to rank the non top 247? Signing day is on Wednesday, and they had their rankings for everyone else by Tuesday. They're cutting it insanely close.
Let's look at the top 247 then, assuming what you said is true.
Antoine Sampah: Composite is 96, 24/7 is 189. 93 spot discrepancy.
Marcus Dumervil: Composite is 108, 24/7 is 192. 84 spot discrepancy.
Eric Taylor: Composite is 268, 24/7 is 349. 81 spot discrepancy.
Josh White: Composite is 141, 24/7 is 213. 73 spot discrepancy.
Philip Webb: Composite is 56, 24/7 is 110. 54 spot discrepancy.
Not one guy going the other way.
12:1 if they are done.
5:0 if they haven't updated yet, and plenty of guys would have to be their highest risers of all time to not make it 10:1 or worse.
1. Eric Taylor isn’t in the top 247
2. What about Boutte, Bjo, Guillory, Toles who are all higher or equal just cause they’re lower on Doom and Webb doesn’t mean there’s An anti LSU conspiracy
3. In the recent top 247 update LSU was the 3rd highest riser of all top 20 classes at +2.00 lmfao
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:58 pm to LSUTigers778
Dude, 247 has finished its update of the 2020 rankings.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 4:00 pm to Curtis Lowe
quote:
Dude, 247 has finished its update of the 2020 rankings.
No they haven’t, they released their final top 247 rankings they are updating the ratings for the non top 247 players throughout the week
Posted on 2/1/20 at 4:01 pm to LSUTigers778
Yes, they have completed their update. Plus the week is over.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 4:05 pm to Skeezer
quote:
Have you considered a hobby?
It's the recruiting board. Shocking to find recruiting analysis here. And maybe this is his hobby. Why don't you find another hobby besides reading the Recruiting Board.
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