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re: 23 class

Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9477 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:14 am to
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not even one committed to LSU from this list. very concerning. its not like we are deep at this position.

hard to fathom these numbers based on LSU's history of DL recruiting.
Injuries and depth are just one reason why the DL struggled the last 3-4 games.
The starters played 85% of the snaps because we had no reliable backups.

2023 top 50 DL

Clem - 4 of the top 13 (3, 5, 11, 13)
ALA - 4 of the top 24 (2, 7, 17, 24)
FLA - 5 of the top 41 (6, 21, 30, 31, 41)
tOSU - 3 of the top 38 (8, 36, 38)
TCU - 3 of the top 50 (15, 35, 50)
ORE - 3 of the top 40 (29, 37, 40)
LSU - 0 of the top 100

LSU DL commits by year

2016 - 8
2017 - 5
2018 - 7
2019 - 4
2020 - 5
2021 - 4
2022 - 3
2023 - ??? LSU will need a min. of 3 from the portal to secure depth
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:29 am to
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Since when is it just ok for LSU to not sign DLman in a class and when it’s called out for what it is this site starts trying to cover it up? If this were Les Miles or Orgeron, this site would be up in arms about us not even sniffing a DL recruit in this cycle. It’s not going to be alright and I don’t see where these recruits HAVE to be from the same state to commit to a school. Masson Smith had a pretty bad injury if I’m not mistaken. We had zero depth THIS season, next season will be much worse. I’m completely aware that we have the portal to lean back on but to lean on the portal for at least 3 to 4 quality prospects, more next year is definitely concerning and we should be discussing it. Why aren’t we recruiting this position much more heavily and why can’t LSU sign the top DL prospects in the region or country? We should be doing that. I’m hoping that it’s just a relationship building time issue or they have already identified guys in the portal with at least 2 years to play. It sure doesn’t look very good for a team like LSU not to be named next to one of the better DL prospects in the country two seasons in a row. At some point we need to be pushing Clemson, Auburn, Bama, Florida, A&M, Texas, Georgia, Florida and Ohio state out of their own area for some of these guys. We can’t just let them pile them up on their rosters. We need to get in there and tell them their plans for them aren’t to their benefit. At LSU you can start tomorrow and help us build what the school who’s offering already has build and will use you only to bolster that number and keep us out.


Man, if you want to be pissed off about things that you have no control over and things that more than likely have no effect on your life, I don’t know what to tell you.

This is a great class so far, especially if we get Ricks. CBK can and will pull experienced and talented DTs from the portal. No reason to freak out.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22170 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:36 am to
I think that the fact that we haven't offered Bourda shows that we haven't reached panic mode yet.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:45 am to
LSU has 3 DTs on that roster as of now will be playing next year and each of those 3 are all-sec and some potentially all-americans. It's a hard sell to come here to play immediately to HS guys. They'll get depth there in the portal if they can convince a good DT he'll be in the double rotation so effectively like a starter. Womack can probably slide inside if they need him too.

Guillory has been a disappointment and Langston has not transferred. Maybe they feel confident both these guys can fill the void next year. They might also be planning to slide someone to the inside. Let BK do his thing. He knows where the holes are.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by astonvilla
New Jersey
Member since Dec 2005
3287 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

hard to fathom these numbers based on LSU's history of DL recruiting.
Injuries and depth are just one reason why the DL struggled the last 3-4 games.
The starters played 85% of the snaps because we had no reliable backups.

2023 top 50 DL

Clem - 4 of the top 13 (3, 5, 11, 13)
ALA - 4 of the top 24 (2, 7, 17, 24)
FLA - 5 of the top 41 (6, 21, 30, 31, 41)
tOSU - 3 of the top 38 (8, 36, 38)
TCU - 3 of the top 50 (15, 35, 50)
ORE - 3 of the top 40 (29, 37, 40)
LSU - 0 of the top 100

LSU DL commits by year

2016 - 8
2017 - 5
2018 - 7
2019 - 4
2020 - 5
2021 - 4
2022 - 3
2023 - ??? LSU will need a min. of 3 from the portal to secure depth


gosh, this makes it more worse. we play two of these teams every year. they said Jamar Cain is a solid recruiter so lets see
Posted by Tigerrganz
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
205 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:22 am to
Let’s not forget that we moved Fitz West to the D Line late this year.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10318 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:44 am to
The biggest hole in this class is clearly DT. That is why Roy is the most important player currently on the roster to re-recruit.

I would feel much better with a trio of Smith, Roy, and Wingo in '23.

There really is no good excuse for whiffing on high school recruits at DT, but that is where we currently are.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15714 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:05 pm to
Portal DT options:
247 Transfer DTs
Not to get too hung up on rankings, but there's UNC 5 star:
Keeshawn Silver 247
6'5 315 very agile for his size
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9477 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Keeshawn Silver 247
6'5 315 very agile for his size

class of 2021 as LSU offered. He was a 5-star and the #6 DL in the class.

mother died when he was a young child, and he was raised by his grandmother - likely reason why he stayed close to home at UNC.

2021 - 3 games, 1 tackle
2022 - 3 games, 3 tackles

Silver struggled with injuries and saw limited time as a reserve DL. I'm sure he's frustrated with his lack of PT and wants to see the field. NIL will likely factor into his decision.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11469 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:38 pm to
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There really is no good excuse for whiffing on high school recruits at DT, but that is where we currently are.

Completely agree. Cain seemed to have it rolling over the summer, but losing Mickens and Reed were a big blow. Can’t figure out how a guy as respected as he is can’t land a single high school DT.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9477 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
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but losing Mickens and Reed were a big blow

I agree 100% , especially after both were Fong'd to other schools with less than 30 days before ESD on 12/21.

Mickens - from Indy and visited LSU on 6/10/22 which is an eternity in recruiting. Visited tOSU on 11/25 and decided to stay close to home.

Reed - AUB likely offered this kid crazy NIL $$$ and he was sold, even after the clusterfk of firing their HC.

Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Mickens - from Indy and visited LSU on 6/10/22 which is an eternity in recruiting. Visited tOSU on 11/25 and decided to stay close to home.


Not to mention that Mickens’ father passed away early this year. Staying closer to home worked out better for his family.
Posted by 2003tigerfan
Member since Aug 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 2:26 pm to
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No DTs is very concerning
and yet .. we see 5 posts a day about edge rushers in the transfer portal
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62928 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 2:48 pm to
If I'm Kelly I'm trying to gage the interest of one of the current A&M DLs from the 2022 class. Maybe Lucas is looking for a way out. He would play significant time and then start in 2024 before heading to the draft. Nolen and Stewart will be starters in front of him in the same class.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 2:49 pm to
Has anyone alerted Coach Kelly? I mean this is some bullshite
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:04 pm to
There will be an even bigger amount after spring in the portal. You guys are freaking out over nothing. Wait until the playoff teams are done more will transfer out after those winning teams are done too.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48390 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:19 pm to
I’ll call Coach Kelly now and let him know he isn’t aligned with the geniuses of the Recruiting Board.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:29 pm to
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I’ll call Coach Kelly now and let him know he isn’t aligned with the geniuses of the Recruiting Board.



Thank you! I mean damn it man instead of being productive at our own jobs we are in here trying fix the roster for him so he can get all the glory, you’d think he’d at least be taking our suggestions

Dial him up Cadello. Get his arse on the horn. Report back asap please
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48390 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:20 pm to
On my way sir
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