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re: 2014 Class - Commit with most upside

Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:38 am to
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:38 am to
Don't mind at all Topisaw.

I didn't touch on Quinn because he is so advanced. His body and skillset are close to where they're gonna end up. That said, I think his current progress all around is where most of the top wrs want to get. Hes that far ahead of most developmentally. He is so much like Landry in that regard. Sometimes what a kid has currently is so good that upside is not really a factor. Others are looking up at kids like Landry and Quinn.

Gamble-I'm no kicker expert so I can't really say much about him. Has a huge leg but can he kick it straight?

Clapp is a good one but I don't see huge upside. I see a good SEC caliber OG that gets to the NFL and just hangs around because if his mindset and work ethic.

I see where people get on the Upchurch train because I'm on it myself. Kid is a stud. I just don't see the upside at wr. Hes already getting to the point of being too big at wr as it goes with his speed and athletic gifts so his upside is limited there. He will improve as a route runner and his hands some but he's already ahead of a lot of kids. At TE he has quite a bit of upside because his body can develop so much but how much and how much does it hurt is athletic gifts? Also limiting his upside to me is this, what is he? Is he a wr? TE? Hback? Hard to judge upside when its unknown exactly where his skillset fits best. His talent is unquestionable but what good is it if he has no true position? I ask myself sometimes is his upside better on defense? Don't know the answer because I haven't seen him on that side but his body screams LB or rush end to me. I think the kid will be a productive player on offense but how productive? Is he gonna catch over 20-25 balls a year? Hard for me to see that. The other wrs are more talented and better wr fits and the TEs like Smith and Washington are better bodies and athletic bodies at TE. I hope the kid finds a spot and thrives but I have a hard time figuring out exactly where and how he produces.

All in all, who knows. We all have our own good, sound opinions and that's why I come here and read what you good fellas think. Who knows who's right? That's what makes these threads fun to read.
Posted by jaguar fan
Member since Feb 2014
754 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:22 am to
I think your wrong about Godchaux, Gage, & Teuhuma mayb upchurch also. I think [/quote]

it's hard to say about the gage kid because the teams redemptorist played last year was so weak that most players can look great against that competition.

i think Godchaux has the potential for the most upside
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14626 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:20 am to
Teuhema...he's a freak.
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Jacory Washington gets overlooked, he could be the best TE in the country before he leaves LSU


I think I am going to go with this one. He performed well in the Under Armour game and there was a reason why he got several balls thrown to him. He must've really shown something in practice is all I can think. Couple this with the fact that Alabama was hounding him before signing day. Big time program that saw something.

Let me clarify the thought. The athleticism and ability is already there. His athleticism has been overlooked and underappreciated. He could be an instant impact player this year.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 11:39 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:04 pm to
Upside, implies potential over current status to me.

To that end, I looked at the lower end of the 4-star and 3-star recruits.

LMFAO, Battle, Gage and Alexander leap out here, as the number of other, more highly regarded players we have at those positions make these players get lost in the shuffle, IMHO.

Out of those, I really think Battle is going to turn some heads. Could be that next great nickel we've been looking for.
Posted by Chesticles
Member since Feb 2012
257 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:11 pm to
Devin Voorhies will be a very great tiger he may not have the most upside but I believe he will develop into a great safety for LSU
Posted by Vernonbrew22
University club
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:11 pm to
This is my first ever post on TD - great site for true Tiger fans. I agree with you about the potential of Godchaux. He has room to grow and is terribly athletic.
Posted by TigerNE
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1131 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Upside, implies potential over current status to me. To that end, I looked at the lower end of the 4-star and 3-star recruits.


I agree. "Upside" isn't the ideal word for this class. It's more about guys living up to their potential.
Posted by LayupKing
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
266 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:23 pm to
If you watched Auburn play this year and saw how they used their H backs and WRs as downfield blockers on running plays, I believe you will be able to forecast Upchurch in a similar role. He can catch the ball. But he has the body to be a punishing blocker against defensive backs. I believe Cameron will incorporate some of that Auburn downfield blocking in our offense with physical players like Upchurch. He is a hybrid. H-back. Tight End. WR. If you can line up a running back and a tight end wide, what is wrong with putting Upchurch out wide. Cameron's whole concept is getting mis-matches.
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:26 pm to
This is a no brainer...Devin Voorhies
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16347 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:32 pm to
Valentine and Godchaux IMO... especially Godchaux.

Godchaux has DT size with DE athleticism. And already is built like an SEC DL. If he can come back full strength... he will be a MONSTER.

Valentine is just a freak. That big and freakishly quick off the ball.

If we can use him right... Upchurch could be a monster as well.

And I expect Dupre to be great for us. Best WR prospect to come out since AJ Green / Julio Jones year IMO.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:11 pm to
Do people not understand what upside means?

No one has a higher ceiling than Fournette. You could maybe make a case for Dupre
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84248 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Easily LF. He literally has the potential to go down as the greatest tiger of all time.


This.

If you're looking for a sleeper or someone outside of LF then we can accept other answers. If not, it's inarguably LF.
This makes no sense.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84248 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Do people not understand what upside means?

Lots don't.

quote:

No one has a higher ceiling than Fournette. You could maybe make a case for Dupre


You're one.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137764 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

He is a hybrid. H-back. Tight End. WR.
misconception

upchurch is a wide receiver

as a comparison

Demaryius Thomas is 6'3" 229

Tony Upchurch is 6'2" 219
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