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"13 " 3 and 2 stars drafted in first round last night per Rivals....

Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7933 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:26 pm
10 5's
9 4's

You never know...
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:32 pm to
Wow. This is the worst argument for stars don't matter I've ever seen.
This post was edited on 4/29/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:33 pm to
That's actually an argument to the value of 5s. Youre just not seeing it.

This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 3:34 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40291 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:49 pm to
give me the total number of 5 stars, 4 stars and 3 stars awarded 4 years ago in high school. Then we can show u the math percentages.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:59 pm to
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You never know...
Sometime you know.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:59 pm to
There's like 30 5 stars a year and 300 million(slight exaggeration) 2 and 3 stars a year.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7933 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:05 pm to
The OL the Saints took was "0" stars as Cam Robinson still waits for his name to be called...

Trust the coaches....
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:06 pm to
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There's like 30 5 stars a year and 300 million(slight exaggeration) 2 and 3 stars a year.

this.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:14 pm to
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That's actually an argument to the value of 5s. Youre just not seeing it.


Yeah I don't get how people thinks this proves stars are "overrated". There's a much, much larger pool of 2 and 3 stars so the % of them that get drafted is extremely low. There are very few 5* so the % of them drafted in the first is insanely high.

Edit: I just looked up the 2013 recruiting class on 247, those guys were Juniors last year, Seniors this year, (maybe some redshirt seniors still but I'm not sure). There were 32 5*, 9 of whom got drafted in the first round last year or this year. A 28% success rate when you look at how many high school prospects there are, is absolutely phenomenal.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:18 pm to
All 3 LSU players drafted yesterday were 5 stars out of HS


You never know.....
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 4:18 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:22 pm to
There have been over 10000 2 and 3 stars in a 5 year span compared to what, 1500 4 and 5 stars? There has only been about 150-160 5 stars over a 5 year span.
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
11148 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:48 pm to
Wow. Being there is on a little bit over 30 5 stars each year and 300 4 stars each year.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:43 pm to
sure you do.

10 5's made it out of maybe 25 or 30 per class. probably 5 or 6 were injured in the course of their 3 years of college.
excellent projection.

there are 1000's of 2's each class. so two or three made it. usually linemen. any kickers that make it.

hundreds of 3's. 10 made it.

mkeh.

Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:14 pm to
I think I saw where more 5 stars made the first round this year than ever. Anyway I agree percentage wise it always be 5,4,3,2, and below. Individuals may not pan out and some will surprise, but the percentages will work out eventually.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:18 pm to
So they admitted they are bias towards some teams recruits?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11147 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:46 pm to
Only if you think of it in terms of randomness, They flunked out 30-33% of the time. If you worked with me, you'd be fired for hitting it right 28% of the time, bombing 33% of the time, and just doing OK the rest of the time. Those "elite" few should be better than the top 50% of the class. No way you can call those kids "5-star elites" and miss 72% of the time. Recruiting services are billing themselves as "experts", they are not saying this is just a Wild arse Guess!
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:04 pm to
Its important to remember that kids mature at different times. I'm convinced that 50% of 5*s are just good players who matured and were stronger or bigger than everyone. 3 and 4*s, if watched closely, are kids who are just hitting their growth/maturity stage late. 5*s mostly have blossomed, while the late bloomers peak in a couple of years in college.

Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4747 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:26 pm to
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Only if you think of it in terms of randomness, They flunked out 30-33% of the time. If you worked with me, you'd be fired for hitting it right 28% of the time, bombing 33% of the time, and just doing OK the rest of the time. Those "elite" few should be better than the top 50% of the class. No way you can call those kids "5-star elites" and miss 72% of the time. Recruiting services are billing themselves as "experts", they are not saying this is just a Wild arse Guess!


You dumb frick. They have no control over work ethic, development, injuries, coach's whims, etc, etc, etc. The fact that they nail time and time again the percentage of stars vs draft picks tells you that they are better at their job that you are at yours.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59106 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Only if you think of it in terms of randomness, They flunked out 30-33% of the time. If you worked with me, you'd be fired for hitting it right 28% of the time, bombing 33% of the time, and just doing OK the rest of the time


So if you ran a baseball team you cut everyone right? Seriously if you don't understand context, your business would fail miserably. BY FAR More 5 *s make than NFL than other star ratings. Hell most first round picks will bust out.
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