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re: 1000% on board offering Rodney Sopsher
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:29 am to AmazinGrace
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:29 am to AmazinGrace
This is a no brainer. It will only cost us 1 scholly for only 1 year, to get Ish for 3-4 years.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:12 am to ArcticTiger
Rodney only has one year to play from what I have read.
So I’m not sure he’s going to pick it up like some try frosh do. He is a Juco with one to play one.
So I’m not sure he’s going to pick it up like some try frosh do. He is a Juco with one to play one.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:04 am to AmazinGrace
Posted on other thread....
Rather than letting him use us for leverage to get Bama to offer sib, why don't we put a time limit on the offer. You sign before Feb 1st, or we withdraw the offer for your brother. He is just using us. If he really wants to go to school with his brother, sign now! Otherwise, what he really wants is to go to Alabama with his brother and we are helping him get there.
Rather than letting him use us for leverage to get Bama to offer sib, why don't we put a time limit on the offer. You sign before Feb 1st, or we withdraw the offer for your brother. He is just using us. If he really wants to go to school with his brother, sign now! Otherwise, what he really wants is to go to Alabama with his brother and we are helping him get there.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:12 am to AmazinGrace
Great just remember of how bad of a deal this is for LSU if Ish turns out to be a dud. Everyone is banking on potential. That’s all I keep hearing out of people. This isn’t some slam dunk where we are for sure getting at least one all American.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:18 am to tigbit
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Rather than letting him use us for leverage to get Bama to offer sib, why don't we put a time limit on the offer. You sign before Feb 1st, or we withdraw the offer for your brother. He is just using us. If he really wants to go to school with his brother, sign now! Otherwise, what he really wants is to go to Alabama with his brother and we are helping him get there.
This same thing crossed my mind. If we are the only ones offering to take both, that says something. if he’s still not committed and we are the only one offering, then that it just feels like he is using us for leverage and holding out till the last second to give bama all the time they need to make a decision. It does not seem to me like these are the actions of a person that WANTS to be here. We will see.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:20 am to dstone12
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Rodney only has one year to play from what I have read.
So I guess it’s not like we would have a dead spot on the roster for 3-4 years. Not as bad.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:24 am to ExpoTiger
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Great just remember of how bad of a deal this is for LSU if Ish turns out to be a dud. Everyone is banking on potential. That’s all I keep hearing out of people. This isn’t some slam dunk where we are for sure getting at least one all American.
Every recruit we've signed was done so based on potential, and Ish is the #1 rated DT in the country.
There are no for sure slam dunks, but a guy that's ranked so high is about as close as you can get.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:26 am to DC4LSU
quote:God I hate conspiracy theories.
Has anyone considered if we send the paperwork to Ish and Rodney and only Rodney sends his back in and Ish signs with Bama.
Total possibly Saban master plan to get Ish as nd screw LSU
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:29 am to dnm3305
quote:What a fricking retarded thing to say. Why would any kid ever come here if that were the case?
If he comes to LSU and isnt a superstar, then he will be absolutely hated at LSU, as he should be.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:34 am to tigbit
quote:Dumb.
Rather than letting him use us for leverage to get Bama to offer sib, why don't we put a time limit on the offer. You sign before Feb 1st, or we withdraw the offer for your brother. He is just using us. If he really wants to go to school with his brother, sign now! Otherwise, what he really wants is to go to Alabama with his brother and we are helping him get there.
Would you have done the same thing to Jamar Chase or Kelvin Joseph?
Worst case scenario- Bamas burns another scholarship on a kid they were gonna her anyways.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:36 am to LSUperior
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It will only cost us 1 scholly for only 1 year, to get Ish for 3-4 years.
That is one way to look at it, but you are also turning away a potential four star type of talent that would be here for 3-4 years as well. Which is big too, especially if neither works out.
I understand people who say he’s worth the gamble. And I understand there is always a risk no matter what you do in recruiting. I guess I really need to go back and watch Ish highlights to fully understand.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:05 pm to AmazinGrace
i don't blame sopsher for wanting a two for one. he's just trying to get the most for his market value. maybe family is more important than football to him.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:16 pm to ExpoTiger
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So I guess it’s not like we would have a dead spot on the roster for 3-4 years. Not as bad.
But.....but one thing. Not entirely the case, but when Rodney leaves after that one year, what is Sopsher going to d?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:34 pm to beauchristopher
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but you are also turning away a potential four star type
We aren't turning away anyone. If Young, Pickering etc want to commit they will be accepted
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:17 pm to AmazinGrace
Put him on special teams lol.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:21 pm to Solo Cam
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What a fricking retarded thing to say. Why would any kid ever come here if that were the case?
Not every kid is leveraging his brother against us to sign with us. From Sopsher...
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"If a school does not offer us both, then I am not even going to consider signing with them in February. I am just going to wait and see who decides to offer us, but the biggest factor for me choosing a school is us going to school together."
Hmmm, who exactly could he be talking about right here? The kid clearly wants to go to Alabama and is throwing these tidbits out to leverage against LSU. LSU is and has been the only school that will offer his brother, and I think it's bullshite that we are put into a position that we have to even do that. This should be two separate entities.
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Me and coach O (Ed Orgeron) are really close," said Sopsher. "We talk almost every a day and he continues to show me a lot of love. We have a very close relationship. I have known him for so long and that is part of the reason LSU is a school I like so much. "Them offering my brother is so important too. There is zero chance we go separate ways. Me and Rodney will go to school together, so LSU giving us that chance does stand out."
Oh really? Well LSU offered that already. No one else has. What exactly could he be waiting for?
It's very clear that LSU is his 2nd choice but it's looking like we'll land him since Bama isnt budging on offering his brother. So there's a very real chance we'll end up with an out of shape, unmotivated and lazy player showing up (Shelvin 2.0) that will cost us two scholarships where no other school would have to pay that price. So, to my original post, yes, he will be hated IF we land him solely because we are the only school that spent two scholly's on him AND he doesn't play up to his grade. If he comes in a destroys O-linemen the way the no.1 DT in the country is supposed to, then all will be forgotten and the investment will obviously be worth it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:44 pm to OppositeMan
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Every recruit we've signed was done so based on potential, and Ish is the #1 rated DT in the country.
There are no for sure slam dunks, but a guy that's ranked so high is about as close as you can get.
Yeah thats not quite what I'm talking about and lineman are not as easy to project as skill position players. I dont give a damn what his ranking is because I dont see it when I see him play. Everyone else just tells me "trust me he can be as good as he wants. They will coach him up". I understand that Im not seeing what I'm not qualified to be able to identify but lack of effort always bothers me. Its 2 Schollies. The brother wont play. Lets not kid ourselves. And the assertion that LSU is recruiting kids whose "potential" doesnt jump off the screen or isnt IMMEDIATELY apparent is silly. They get to recruit the cream of the crop. We arent just signing kids on a wing and a prayer. Look I hope Ish signs with LSU regardless, and I hope he is really good.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:47 pm to RightHook
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i don't blame sopsher for wanting a two for one. he's just trying to get the most for his market value. maybe family is more important than football to him.
Im for sure not casting any stones at him for the 2 for 1 thing. Its his brother. We are talking about a possible life changing experience for him to be able to go to school with his bro. I get it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:53 pm to Solo Cam
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Worst case scenario- Bamas burns another scholarship on a kid they were gonna her anyways.
Im glad you said this because its important for everyone to realize that Bama does not need to and will not take his brother unless he really doesnt want us to have sopsher. They just dont have to do it guys. This isnt a personnel issue. They are stacked
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:56 pm to dnm3305
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he will be hated IF we land him solely because we are the only school that spent two scholly's on him AND he doesn't play up to his grade.
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