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re: What turf grass should I go with?

Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:16 pm to
10/4... so it would have to be 100% sodded.

Currently have St. Aug, but really have been waiting for this last cold weather to retreat before doing something.

Any other recs if we don't sod? I think I saw in previous posts I can mix bermuda in with the existing St. Aug and the Bermuda will take over?

Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Currently have St. Aug, but really have been waiting for this last cold weather to retreat before doing something.

Any other recs if we don't sod? I think I saw in previous posts I can mix bermuda in with the existing St. Aug and the Bermuda will take over?



What's the problem with the st aug?

I read plenty of positive stuff on this board about bermuda and zoysia, but know this, all grass will need weed control, and all will occasionally get a fungus or webworms or something.

I know Ronk, et al love bermuda, but it seems to seldom get mentioned how much a weed stands out in bermuda versus wider blade grasses that are typically mowed maintained at a taller height.

ETA: I respect and appreciate Ronk, and often follow his advice. I just have a bit less love of bermuda than him.

If what you have is relatively healthy, look for ways to rehabilitate it rather than to replace it, unless you just hate it, and have the funds to replace it.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:36 pm to
Yeah Just was looking to possibly have a "change"... dont have PLENTY to change if we did make the move, but just thinking of making the change.

100% sunlight in backyard due to the tree that fell from Ida...

Have a Dog that kills the grass near the fence line by going back and forth at times so either was going to try and fix those areas, or try to make a push to make a change.

Also, since we had that issue in our backyard the back does need to be leveled since there is areas that are higher than others due to how the tree landed etc.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:08 am to
Fair enough. Sounds like a change makes sense.

Considering the dog traffic issue, and plenty of sun, zoysia and bermuda are typically the most traffic resistant.

There a several varieties of both available, so confirm my comments with research on the ones available in your area.

Also know that the more unusual grass that you choose, the more difficult it will be to get replacement patches.

Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:21 pm to
Very few zoysias on the market are hybrids. The only 2 you might find as hybrids are Emerald and Geo. They generally don’t produce enough seed for it to be worth it.
However, There is a zoysia available as seed from Pennington Seed and Patton Seed called Zenith. There’s also a seeded variety by Scotts called Companion. I don’t think these have as high of a rating as the vegetative ones. Also, I’ve read that it requires strictly following the directions for seedbed prep and watering and weeding during the grow-in period. You can usually find Zenith at Lowes and Home Depot.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:02 am to
I thought it was interesting on the paperwork for my pallets of zoysia, it includes specific rules/regulations that I'm not allowed to collect the seeds my own grass produces. (Palisades from Woerner)
Posted by Sir Saint
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:14 am to
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Any other recs if we don't sod? I think I saw in previous posts I can mix bermuda in with the existing St. Aug and the Bermuda will take over


I am in the process of attempting to transition my St. Aug front yard to Bermuda this year. I am NOT sodding, I am overseeding St Aug with Monaco Bermuda seed, mowing low at 1 inch, and ferting the shite out of it starting mid april (approx 0.5lb N / 1000ft2 per week). Believe it or not, there is very little online about this method (maybe because it doesn't work??) - almost everyone universally says to round-up and sod or sprig. I'm not doing that because I honestly don't want to pay 3k for new sod and installation. I'm keeping a little journal and will post if successful.

@Grassy1
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What's the problem with the st aug?


I have 2 big problems with my st aug. Fungus and drought sensitivity. Large patch and Take All have been eating my lunch for a few years. And in July/August I'm tired of lugging my hose around to all the brown spots in effort to save it (while the common bermuda seems to thrive)
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
289 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:10 pm to
You will end up with a mixed lawn of Bermuda and St. Augustine if you overseed. In fact you probably won’t have luck with the bermuda because bermuda seed will very minimally sprout, if at all, if it’s in competition with any grass, even if were the same variety of bermudagrass. But even more so with St. Augustine grass, because it’s broad leaves will shade the ground. Even if you plugged or laid pieces of bermuda, it won’t crowd out other grasses. Mow it low and you’ll have more bermuda, but st. Aug will still be around.
Posted by Sir Saint
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Member since Jun 2010
5427 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:23 am to
Well I’m full send on this, guess we’ll see what happens. If it fails I’ll nuke the whole thing and sod next year.
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