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Weed help again. I owe beers to you baws!

Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:19 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:19 pm
Smooth crab grass? Leaves are tender and velvety. Pulls up by these fragile, stringy pieces. I can never find a root/base. Intertwined in St. Aug.





Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:29 pm to
Sure looks like crabgrass
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:50 pm to
Looks like Dallisgrass to me (but it may be Crabgrass too). You can tell by the slim stalk with the black seeds on it. It's a PITA to get rid of. I put a glove on and rub straight 41% glyphosate on the blades to kill the patch because my grass is St. Augustine. When you mow it, the seeds fly and new Dallisgrass pops up in other areas. Need to eradicate all of it or it will keep popping up.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:41 pm to
Googling Dallisgrass it just looks so much like a head of normal crabgrass. This stuff is low profile. Grown horizontal along the st. Aug. Not up & out. You have to hunt to find it.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:44 pm to
Outstanding id. That is smooth crabgrass.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:06 pm to
Thanks! Celsius, roundup, napalm?
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:02 am to
Le bump.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:25 am to
Unfortunately for St Aug, the best herbicides Available that kill crabgrass aren’t really compatible (To my knowledge). Image and Atrazine are some of the better options that are available but it’s getting too hot to use them. The best thing will be to put down a good pre-emergent this fall and then again in the late winter to prevent it from showing up in the first place. As far as this year, feel free to pull it or roundup it
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:58 am to
Celsius will supress it and so will Blindside. Tenacity will kill it but you're only supposed to use Tenacity on sod farms. I'm only assuming because it will turn the grass white. You can use Tenacity on other residential lawns but just not st aug residential lawns.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Celsius will supress it


Ok. Thanks guys. I'll used Celsius to knock it down for the year and then pre-emerg. it this fall and late winter. I've got a Celsius battle coming up for the spurge, VBW, and now this & a sedgehammer battle for the green kyllinga.

This stuff ONLY grows in the bottom left corner of my front yard. Nowhere else. It comes back in the same spot every year. I even put down pre-emerg from Fertilome that was supposed to handle it. Guess I was too late.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12576 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 6:36 am to
That green kyllinga is hard to get rid of. Seems like my first pass with sledgehammer didn’t do anything.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:19 am to
If you have celsius use that with sedgehammer.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:39 am to
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If you have celsius use that with sedgehammer.



You're such a boss. Can we seriously get Ronk and CrawDude some beers somehow? They have been super helpful to everyone. I bet they're so tired of answering the same ole shite.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:55 am to
I love it and I know Craw does too. Sometimes I just feel repetitive in my answers but it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother yall.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:36 am to
Wow! Y'all weren't kidding. 3/4tsp to 1gallon pump sprayer and I ran out of weeds to spray in the front and back yard. This Celsius will last me an eternity.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:38 am to
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This Celsius will last me an eternity.

It’s less expensive over time than many other “cheaper” herbicides for this reason.

On the crabgrass, obviously you are limited to post-emergent treatment b/c of the St Augustine, live with it this year, and focus on the late winter application (early Feb if in southern LA if we have another warm winter) of pre-emergent. Seeds germinate at soil temps of 55 F. Three years ago, prior to my using pre-emergents, I had a serious issue with crabgrass in an area of the lawn - I estimate the first year of using pre-emergent I eliminated 80-90% of the crabgrass, now - I can’t find a crabgrass plant in the lawn.
Posted by CrawKing
Member since Mar 2018
180 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:13 am to
Have i been torpedoed by my new silt, or is this something i can selectively treat?

Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Have i been torpedoed by my new silt, or is this something i can selectively treat?

Sorry to hear that. What type of lawn grass?

Centipede - Sethoxydim
Bermudagrass/Zoysia - Quinchlorac
St Augustine - ?????
LINK

If the area isn’t sodded yet I suppose repeated applications of glyphosate.

This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by CrawKing
Member since Mar 2018
180 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:39 am to
St. Augustine. I guess i will glyphosate area. Was just starting to get st aug runners through it too.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:07 am to
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St. Augustine. I guess i will glyphosate area. Was just starting to get st aug runners through it too

Honestly I don’t what people can do now days in south LA with regards to river silt fill. Used to be you just had to avoid buying it from areas known to be contaminated with torpedograss, but based solely from posts on this board that doesn’t seem to the case anymore.

I’ll buy only mason sand now for filling low spots in the yard to avoid torpedograss but I really don’t know what people can do that need large amounts of fill material for a lawn if you live in many areas of south Louisiana.
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