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re: Tree ID- trying again

Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:16 am to
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:16 am to
Yes, there are hundreds. And unless you know exactly what to look for, a lot of the varieties look exactly the same
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:31 am to
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I know there are 100 types of everything, but I was thinking white oak because the red oaks I've had have pointed lobes, these are rounded like the white oaks I've had


Yeah I was thinking the same, but looked up Northern Red Oak leaves and some of them appeared to be lobed, but some were pointed as well. The pics are so grainy it's hard to tell.

Oaks aren't usually that hard to ID, there's only about 20 that are native to La. Not sure about Ms, but I doubt it's much more.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:31 am to
Due to the indentations being more than 50% of some of the leaves and it being at the extreme limits of the Quercus rubra range I'm sticking with shumard's oak, a red oak, of course.
Posted by REB BEER
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:36 am to
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If wanting acorns as a wildlife food source them plant a white oak


Not so fast my friend, it's good to have a variety of each. It takes 2 years for red oak acorns to mature and only 1 year for white oaks.

Wildlife do, in fact, prefer white oak acorns, but in the event of a really late hard freeze, you could have a total failure of white oak acorns for that year and the red oak acorns from the previous year could be available. And vice versa, the year after that, you'd have a bad red oak crop, and the white oaks could make up.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:39 pm to
Maybe so but White oak acorns tend to be selected by wildlife more than red oak acorns because they contain less tannins resulting in a less bitter and more digestible acorn
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12958 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Not so fast my friend, it's good to have a variety of each. It takes 2 years for red oak acorns to mature and only 1 year for white oaks.

Wildlife do, in fact, prefer white oak acorns, but in the event of a really late hard freeze, you could have a total failure of white oak acorns for that year and the red oak acorns from the previous year could be available. And vice versa, the year after that, you'd have a bad red oak crop, and the white oaks could make up.

Great post.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 9:26 pm to


Chestnut oaks have huge acorns and the deer like them on my property. More so than white, red, or post oaks which are also present.

Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:02 pm to
Chestnut oaks grow really fast also, at least in my experience.
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