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Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted by gamemc
Member since Jan 2013
913 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:15 pm
This is my first year gardening and I’ve already killed plenty of plants. One round of tomatoes down the drain. This is my second attempt. They’ve been getting plenty of sunlight (maybe too much?) and I’ve watered (from the bottom) only when the top of the soil looks dry.

Any idea what the yellow/browning is on the tips of the leaves? I’m hoping some sort of nutrient deficiency because I might just give up on gardening if I have to keep starting over D:

Posted by chackbay
the bay area, la.
Member since Jan 2004
1745 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:54 pm to
what kind of water? water from the hose is garbage for plants. rain water, and every now and then miracle grow type mixture.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15122 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:59 pm to
Don't know where you plan on growing them, but if in the deep south, you're a bit late. Mine are now 4 ft. tall and loaded with tomatoes and usually by mid June/early July they are done and I pull them out the garden.

The heat and humidity of summer kicks them hard and then there's issues with mold and diseases in the summer months.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:56 am to
My wife is waiting impatiently to plant her tomato plants which are in the garage under grow lights. But the temperatures are still getting down to the low 40's. Some are over a foot tall now. When she does plant them she will water them with Miracle Grow for veggies.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15122 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:09 am to
quote:

Some are over a foot tall now. When she does plant them she will water them with Miracle Grow for veggies.





Tell her to strip a couple stems off the bottom of the plants and plant them deep in the soil. That helps with more root development along the buried stem and gives them solid footing in the garden.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2890 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Mine are now 4 ft. tall and loaded with tomatoes and usually by mid June/early July they are done and I pull them out the garden.

The heat and humidity of summer kicks them hard and then there's issues with mold and diseases in the summer months.


I used to do the same until a friend suggested parks improved whopper tomatoes.

They handle heat and disease better than any tomato I've ever grown and put out loads of tomatoes.

They will slow down in July and I will replace them with a second set I start around end of May.

I've had tomatoes all the way to November last 2 years doing this.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15122 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I used to do the same until a friend suggested parks improved whopper tomatoes.



Never heard of them. Thanks for the heads up. I usually plant a second crop in the late summer to have fresh tomatoes in November. Here in N.O. we haven't gotten any real cold weather during our winter months in ages. Maybe just a night or two near freezing, but that is usually by the time they second crop is done anyway.
Posted by gamemc
Member since Jan 2013
913 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:42 am to
Watering with well water. I've given just a tad bit of miracle grow after the true leaves started growing.

These are 4 weeks old... growing slowly. I'm in North MS so hopefully we're not terribly late on growing these. Like I said, the first round failed miserably. They got leggy and I tried transplanting to bigger containers and then they all died

These have looked good until now with the tips curling and turning a bit yellow/brown. Maybe I should go ahead and get them in the ground and start praying!
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9372 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:06 pm to
Mine may have done something similar to yours. Here are mine after almost a month.

earlier post of mine

They continued this trend (older growth yellowing and tips drying up), until I put them outside in the ground. I just cut the bottom rough branches off and buried them deep, and they have taken off and haven't looked back.

Maybe yours will do the same...

ETA:

quote:

I might just give up on gardening if I have to keep starting over


Don't give up. This is my first year after an ~10 year hiatus in trying a vegetable garden. So far I thought I almost killed my tomatoes like you, and after I sowed my cucumber and squash in the ground, I overfertilized and stunted them. They're slowly coming back.... they may not make it, but I'll know better next year.

It's a learning process, and there are some great sages in the thread I linked above that are there to help. Jump in there and hang with it!
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:17 pm to
How big was the plants when you planted them?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9372 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

How big was the plants when you planted them?


I can't remember. We kept having cold snaps so I had to go to large pots. Maybe 18"
Posted by Wolfmanjack
Member since Jun 2017
1021 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:40 pm to
If you didn’t harden them off properly the sun/wind will cause that problem.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56030 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:03 pm to
That looks like some type of anemia to me. Seee if you can find some chelated iron and that will fix them right up.
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:13 pm to
Agree on the hardening off. If there's no danger of frost hardend thme off and keep them outside until ready to plant. Even in January I leave mine outside whenever possible.
Posted by chackbay
the bay area, la.
Member since Jan 2004
1745 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:03 am to
i would think well water is pretty hard and not pH neutral like rain water or the miracle grow type mixes. try changing that up, i will be easy to see changes.
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
1911 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:41 am to
I'd def hit it with a more complete fertilizer. With both micro and macronutrients. Make sure there is some iron in there. I use big arse tomatoes to start out my plants then after first blooms I switch to tomato tone for more phosphorus and potassium vs more nitrogen. The big arse tomatoes has iron in it. Miracle grow organic has iron in it but a lot of fertilizer doesn't. You could also just supplement with some chelated iron or something like seaweed kelp.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1471 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:17 am to
Them being that small i wouldn't hit them with Miracle Grow. It's probably too much for those little plants. I would do a milder fish emulsion until they are up potted. Like others have said, there is no replacement for pure sunlight. Try putting them outside a little bit.
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
1911 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
organic miracle grow is much weaker than the synthetic version and i believe majority of it is more slow release as far as nitrogen goes as only some is water soluble
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:41 pm to
Whopper is a great indeterminate tomato.
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