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Tankless water heater install cost

Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:26 pm
One of our electric tank water heaters went out and it’s about impossible to get too, way back in the attic/climbing over duct work. Builder was an idiot.

Got quote for 2900 for tank reinstall
OR
can get both water heaters out of attic and go whole house gas tankless for 8600$.

I’m having knee surgery this week so I’m not going to be out of commission for a while, so DIY is not an option

Getting another estimate this week from another company. I was expecting 5k for tankless install but the estimate just for the navien heater is 5500$, that includes warranties though

Just insane



This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:05 pm to
Location?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:48 pm to
They have to charge that much because it’s a tankless job.





I’m sorry, i’ll see myself out.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 6:53 am to
Alexandria unfortunately

And they want to put the tankless heater outside which I’m not too comfortable with given 15 degree temps the past 2 winters
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:34 am to
Do you run out of hot water with your current system? How long do you plan to live in the house? It would probably take about 10 years before you recover the higher install cost to see any savings in your utility bill by switching to tankless.

Another option is an electric hybrid heat pump water heater tank in the attic. They are energy efficient and you can get some rebate/tax credit money.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:02 am to
Just based on what I've seen from the board over the last year, it feels like $3k/tankless is the amount you want to look for. Our neighbor had their tankless outside on the siding and did NOT insulate it. During the big 2022 freeze in BR it burst. Again, it was not insulated at all and power went out.

What would be the reason you want to go tankless? I would think you should only be paying those prices if you're running a tankless gas heater.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:06 am to
We replaced our electric tank units with a Navien gas tankless (inside the attic) about 4 years ago. Unit + installation was 6500. I don't remember which model, but it was sized to replace 2 50-gal tanks.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

We replaced our electric tank units with a Navien gas tankless (inside the attic) about 4 years ago. Unit + installation was 6500. I don't remember which model, but it was sized to replace 2 50-gal tanks.


I did the same thing for friends. The Navien tankless was the same price as two 50 gallon tanks. The tankless is by far, the way to go. My house now has tankless, won’t ever go back to tank water heaters.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:38 am to
The Navien unit itself will be around $1500, for reference.

I had my 50 gallon electric tank in the attic replaced with an exterior State 10GPM / 199,000 BTU, non condensing gas tankless unit. I was concerned about exterior as well, but it doesn't make a difference. The unit has freeze protection.

That said, my unit is 10GPM when it's 100 degrees outside. I'm in South Louisiana, and in the winter when the water temp drops, the max I could get was 4.8GPM. Getting a condensing unit will increase that by about 1 gpm.

That said, location is critical. There's a reason you see new houses being built with a tankless on each side of the house.

Tankless is great for long uses
Tankless is not great for when you need short bursts of hot water, such as the sink, bathroom lavatory, etc..

Our tankless was installed on the "quarters" side exterior wall, so it's closest to the bedrooms / bathrooms. It is across the house from the kitchen and laundry room. Washing machine has no problem flowing enough water to get hot water in a timely manner, however the kitchen sink will never see a drop of hot water under normal use, unless you let it run for a few MINUTES. I installed a recirculating pump under my sink that uses the cold water line as the return, but that crapped out on my a few weeks ago.

If I could do it all over again, I'd keep the tankless just for the bathrooms, and install a 20-30 gallon tank for the kitchen / laundry room.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:02 pm to
Yeah I don’t know what to do. 3k for just another tank seemed like robbery so I was thinking I might as well go all out if I have to spend that…. But I’m going to get some more estimates

We don’t usually run out of hot water. One tank does laundry, spare bath, kitchen. Other unit covers main bathrooms.

I don’t plan on being in this house 5-10 years. Going from electric to gas seems like it would save on electric bill but it seems like a big hassle and no good place to mount it
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

The Navien unit itself will be around $1500, for reference.


Southern air quote for navien was 5100$ with 15 year heat exchange warranty, 5 years parts, 2 years labor
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:12 am to
$3,000 to replace two tanks honestly doesn't seem that bad. The two tanks will cost around $1,600 or so, but considering all that's involved is hauling the tanks in the attic, and plugging into existing plumbing and wiring, it's a simple job.

One thing to consider is that the tankless unit will generally add curb appeal if you sell the house.

If running gas, then that 's a job, even to replace the tanks, since you talking about running the lines, popping holes in the roof for vents, etc.. Also depends on how much gas line needs to be run.

This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:27 am to
quote:

And they want to put the tankless heater outside which I’m not too comfortable with given 15 degree temps the past 2 winters



I lost my first tankless in that "vortex" back in 2020/21. They put electronic heaters on the coils to keep them from freezing which is fine, until power goes out and you dont have a standalone generator.

I went tankless in the attic and I'm happy with it. They are pretty efficient. I am DIY and did my own install for about $900 including the water heater. They're all made in China and I'll be happy to get 3-5 years out of it.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

$3,000 to replace two tanks honestly doesn't seem that bad.


That was for one tank (replaced the other DIY with father in law about 3 years ago)but it will be hell getting it up the attic and getting to the back… I’ll give them that. The quote was 1900$ for a 50gallon rheem, rest was labor pretty much. I only need 40 gallon for 2 bathrooms
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15092 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

it’s about impossible to get too, way back in the attic/climbing over duct work. Builder was an idiot.


Your going to have get to the tankless units every year or so to flush and descale the units. Are you going to pay someone every year or so to do the service?

If your going to live there 5-10 more years I would roll with what you got and install another electric tank. After paying for tank less heaters, plumbing, gas lines, and roof vents to install the gas tankless units. No way you will come out ahead going tankless in less than 10 years.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
Thanks for input
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

If your going to live there 5-10 more years I would roll with what you got and install another electric tank. After paying for tank less heaters, plumbing, gas lines, and roof vents to install the gas tankless units. No way you will come out ahead going tankless in less than 10 years.

That's a good point.

quote:

The quote was 1900$ for a 50gallon rheem

That's insane. Even a 12 year Rheem 50 gallon with 5500 watt elements and WiFi is less than a grand. You can also offer to buy it yourself and just pay them to install it.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:05 pm to
I tried to tell him I can get a 500$ one at Home Depot that would be fine for us and he started with the big box stores don’t get the high end rheem models, etc. I don’t need all that crap, just need hot water

I think I will go tank at this point and just find someone cheaper to put one in. I’m not staying at this place long, would already be gone if it weren’t for Biden and the housing market
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 5:11 pm
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