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Soundproofing a HVAC closet
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:01 am
We replaced the HVAC last summer and this unit is noticeably
louder then the old unit.
Looking for suggestions on a sound deadening mat to put inside to dampen some of the noise. Looking online and pricing are as widespread as the materials used.
louder then the old unit.
Looking for suggestions on a sound deadening mat to put inside to dampen some of the noise. Looking online and pricing are as widespread as the materials used.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:17 am to Traveler
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:25 am to TD422
Agree, some of the higher end stuff does come with a matching price and if it works as advertised, I'm okay with it. Looking for a 4X4 section rather than a roll. I'll take a look. Thanks.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:38 am to Traveler
Most of the noise you're hearing is from the blower and the noise is coming from the return air vent which you can't do much about. I did cover the inside of the door with Reflective Roll Insulation and foil tape. I also installed foam weather stripping around the door opening which helped some. My intent wasn't to lower the noise level but to lower the hall summer time temps due to the HVAC closet being open at the top into the attic.
Reflective Roll Insulation
Reflective Roll Insulation
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:01 am to weadjust
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I did cover the inside of the door with Reflective Roll Insulation and foil tape. I also installed foam weather stripping around the door opening
Actually, I did the same thing for the same reason you mentioned after the new unit was installed. The installers had pushed away the insulation blankets in the attic away from the unit and it didn't take long to notice the heat coming through the walls which in turn gave a false indication to the thermostat. Once I repositioned the blankets, the problem with the heat and the walls went back to normal.
Do you have any coverings at the bottom of your closet or is it bare slab?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:06 am to Traveler
quote:
Do you have any coverings at the bottom of your closet or is it bare slab?
It's bare slab and the walls are open with exposed wall studs. My 2 year old Trane blower/fan is louder than the 15 year old Payne unit that was replaced. I guess the newer more efficient fan moves more air.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:14 am to weadjust
This is also a Trane unit that replaced a Lennox. The 20 yr old Lennox was a whole lot quieter and I agree, the Trane moves a lot more air than I expected and a heck of a lot more efficient.
Sounds like we are driving on the same road trying to get to the same place.
Thanks for your input.
Sounds like we are driving on the same road trying to get to the same place.
Thanks for your input.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:51 am to Traveler
Trane's are notoriously loud, but is this common with newer units? Have a rental the same way, can't remember the name.
Seems like noise should be considered in some scenarios where the location is noticeable.
Seems like noise should be considered in some scenarios where the location is noticeable.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:53 am to baldona
I'm not sure if this is an option OP, but depending on where your Filters are located and where your system sucks your air you may be able to change the room or direction of this to quiet it down? Often times you want as much air flow as possible and this may not be the best idea.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:55 am to baldona
I have a new Trane unit that's in a second floor closet. The return is in the first floor dining room ceiling and if it's quiet in the house it's pretty noticeable. There used to be a filter there but now the filter is at the unit itself.
I've thought about using some type of weather stripping along the opening of the return just inside the grate to dampen sound but wasn't sure it would work.
I've thought about using some type of weather stripping along the opening of the return just inside the grate to dampen sound but wasn't sure it would work.
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 10:55 am
Posted on 3/12/21 at 11:21 am to baldona
quote:
but is this common with newer units?
Not speaking for others, but this one is. I think with the increase of airflow, the noise through the filter and grill has added to the problem. The outside grill opening is 20X30 so opening it up is not an option.
I wish there was a way to slow the fan speed down without sacrificing efficiency, but I don't think that is possible.
I want to try a mat on the bottom and see if that helps, if not I'll have to live with. Got too used to that old unit.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 1:34 pm to Traveler
this is what is used commercially to sound dampen mechanical room walls:
LINK
common specifications:
2.07 AIR HANDLING UNIT ROOMS
A. Finish and install over entire areas of walls/doors/ceiling of air handling rooms/elevator
equipment rooms 2" thick acoustical type fiberglass hullboard insulation 3# density, applied
over Stick-Klips 12" on center. Stick-Klips shall be applied to wall with Construction Adhesive.
Acoustical material shall be applied over Stick-Klips with duct linear adhesive spotted between
pins. Joints to be sealed with fiberglass lagging tape.
LINK
common specifications:
2.07 AIR HANDLING UNIT ROOMS
A. Finish and install over entire areas of walls/doors/ceiling of air handling rooms/elevator
equipment rooms 2" thick acoustical type fiberglass hullboard insulation 3# density, applied
over Stick-Klips 12" on center. Stick-Klips shall be applied to wall with Construction Adhesive.
Acoustical material shall be applied over Stick-Klips with duct linear adhesive spotted between
pins. Joints to be sealed with fiberglass lagging tape.
Posted on 3/13/21 at 2:29 pm to Traveler
quote:
I wish there was a way to slow the fan speed down without sacrificing efficiency, but I don't think that is possible.
You didn’t mention what type and size of air handler that you have but even the simplest units have a speed tap from the blower motor to the air handler control board to change the speed of the blower motor. For much of the country the speed is set at 400 cfm per ton in cooling mode (e.g. 4 ton unit would be set to deliver 1,600 cfm), so the units come with that setting, but in the deep humid south the blower motor speed can, and in many case should, be reduced to 350 cfm (1400 cfm for a 4 ton unit) or even a bit lower, to help better lower humidity, but the speed cannot be reduced so much that it causes the evaporator coil to freeze over from low air flow.
This might be best discussed with the HVAC tech who installed the system but all this information should be in the air handler manual, of which you should have been given a copy when the new unit was installed. As an aside, the blower motor often uses a slower speed when in heating mode (compared to cooling mode).
I really don’t know if this would help, at least to some degree, with noise reduction, I just wanted you to be aware it might be an viable option along with soundproofing.
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 11:33 am
Posted on 3/14/21 at 11:18 am to Traveler
If the a/c noise is making it hard to hear the tv, get one of these to put next to you. It will transmit the tv sound wirelessly to the the receiver, and it transmits less of the background noise from the tv program, and pumps up the human voice from the tv show.
LINK
LINK
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